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yellowwelly
Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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Topic: It's hydrofoils all the way now Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 2:06pm |
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Yes there's a cross-thread discussion going on.... but we've been here before, and seen the world of normal dinghies (which actually work for club racing) decimated by the marketing bull of the industry pushing sprit kites as 'the way forward'.
So will 'foils' become the new thing for mainstream dinghies? We will we have the people's foiler, like we had the people's asymmetrics- various of them, none of them really delivering? Aw gawd... I hope not. PSA have just released their foil kit for the Laser... a bolt on, not unlike the Vortex with a kite. It's the early signs.... But when are the built for purpose SMODs coming? You know, a boat for muppets who so far have respect enough to nod in appreciation at the Moth, even have the odd go at getting very wet, but harbouring zero desire to actually own one, or be owned by it. So the muppet version must be coming... loads more hype to follow. The RS Flight, The Topper Top Gun or the Ovington Aviator.... maybe something from the Italians that'll look sh*te, but might just marginally work better.... on Lake Como, or the formidable location known only as 'Solent Chop'. It'll be `Suitable ' for 65 to 100kg... easy to launch.... soft sail.... works in weed.... massage your ego. F**k it, one of them will have totally valueless 'Code Zero' just to offer a 'point of difference' and get an AC45 buzz word in there while we still know what it means... that one will suck the most, but it will have the biggest stand at the Dinghy Exhibition and come with a free kit bag. And unlike the fully expensed jocks, it'll be paid for by post income tax, VAT added revenues that should really be put into ISAs.... or Icons. Icons, mmm, fleets of 20+ Icons all racing tactically like the Ents used to... that would nice. Despite all this, I don't think I'll have the will, or the wit, to actually resist one, in fact the deposit is ready.... will you?
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 3:00pm | |
I'm sensing deep cynicism here
Anyone else smell it? Smells like. Losing. Edited by iGRF - 30 Sep 13 at 3:01pm |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 3:06pm | |
What are they Jim, foiling Cats? Video link anywhere? I must admit if nothing else the AC opened my mind up to considering the darker side although I still view conventional cats as jet ski-ing with sails, will the addition of foils make them any more palatable to racers with IQ's more than 70? |
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yellowwelly
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 3:23pm | |
you need a skegged cat with that beach Graeme.... a nice Nacra 500... built by Cobra, sold by the Dutch.
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 3:43pm | |
Tell me, are there such things as Cat Bandits? Something to slaughter a Merlin with?
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yellowwelly
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 3:55pm | |
honestly.... the reason I didn't buy a cat after the 100 was that mixing them on the same course as monohulls just doesn't work. (Cats are banned at some of the winter cheating events....)
We have enough issues getting a viable rating for a Dart 15 and that's one of the simpler cats. Cats use their own handicap system as they identified the flaws in PY.... is it any less flawed, f*ck knows.... ask one of the damned in that section below. But they seem to whinge less than dinghy sailors about handicaps from what limited exposure I've had.
That said, I could be tempted to re-consider them again- I'm less worried about handicap racing, it would just be a 'blatter' for non windsurfing wind- I'd look F16 or A Class personally. You'd be okay in an A with the right rig, but you'd need a crew for an F16.... I've heard good things about the Topper CT or whatever it's called. I'd be too heavy, you'd be fine. But it's rotomould, so another mental hurdle to jump. |
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MPS419
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 6:47pm | |
Well thought through with your 2.06pm post yellowbelly.
We seem to be viewing foiling from a different perspective though. What you have described is exactly what i'm after. Perhaps you could do me a picture and I will place an order!! I prefer my foiling 600 to my Musto. I would have a moth but slighty to heavy, definitely to old and absolutely 100% to clumsy. Foiling however is an absolute hoot. |
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yellowwelly
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 13 at 12:00am | |
Naturally... of course it will be outsourced to some sweatshop somewhere to enable me to profit from your enthusiasm.... failing that, I'll ask Holman or Peaky to knock something up that I can run through photoshop with a pink filter to give it some sh*t hot sex appeal.
Can I wholly recommend the elite pump action on the code zero hoist system. It works on industrial knicker elastic integrated into the push rods.... every time you hoist your kite, the foils engage for added lift. Any expert will tell you the kite lifts the bow. On a proper boat anyway.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 13 at 11:25am | |
An A Class in 6-10kts wind, totally unbeatable. |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 13 at 11:39am | |
So, does it have a yardstick or are they rated differently, we don't have cats racing at our club, but hypothetically can they race in a handicap fleet? They have that SHCRS thing or whatever group of initials it is, is there a crossover formula to PY? Then the inevitable next question has the SHCRS thing been tried for mono's And if not why not? |
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