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tgruitt
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Topic: RS200 Goosewinging Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 10:54am |
Hi everyone,
There might be the possibility that I will be sailing an RS200 on a small gravel pit with islands etc. I've heard about the Square Running System on the 200, is it as much of a faff as it sounds? If it is then what technique is needed to goosewing the assy kite without the SRS pole? Any help would be appreciated as I would rather have some knowledge before sailing it like that... Thanks. |
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yellowwelly
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 11:00am |
I think the SRS has officially been removed from the boat on class rules.... might be worth checking in with Ugs and co.
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RS400atC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 11:23am |
Is it a class event or a handicap event?
Need to check the class rules, I think it's only banned for 'circuit' events or some-such weasel words. I have not seen an SRS pole for years TBH. Since it's no longer possible to find the 200 pages from the 400 homepage I haven't checked lately.
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transient
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 12:06pm |
I think goosewinging the kite is banned as is the pole at class events.
http://www.hisc.co.uk/media/46774/rs_si_2013.pdf
22.3 RS200 only - the use of a pole to control the clew of the spinnaker is not permitted and the spinnaker may not be flown in a goose-winged fashion on the opposite side to the mainsail. The pole may be carried but not used. As Mr 400 said above, I believe it's ok at H/cap events though as class rules still permit. I recently swapped from a symmetric to the 200.....I was then told that I needed to learn how to "soak low". Oh the irony......I think they're all closet symmy sailors really Edited by transient - 03 Jul 13 at 12:09pm |
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yellowwelly
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 12:21pm |
I think we need to remember the old saying, 'one step backwards, two step forwards' |
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transient
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jul 13 at 12:36pm |
sweet and quick...... Looks a bit like them old steam driven carpet looms though (pre-emptive shot)
For a description of what's involved with the RS200 SRS, see bottom of page: |
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tgruitt
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 13 at 11:10am |
So can anyone confirm that goosewinging the kite (without a SRS pole) is legal in handicap/non RS fleet racing?
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 13 at 12:44pm |
is it actually very stable anyway? Whenever i have cocked a gybe up in my MPS and end up goose winging its more about which way am i going to capsize not if!
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GybeFunny
Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 13 at 1:18pm |
I have used SRS, its a load of rubbish, dont bother with it! I wouldnt even bother with your goosewinging idea, far better off learning how to soak low.
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RS400atC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 13 at 1:32pm |
I can see it might be good to goosewing in light airs when you want to sail directly downwind to keep out of the tide for instance. There are times in stupidly light air when the kite on a 400 is no help, it's better to have it down and run in a straight line, particularly if that enables you to stay in the shallows out of the tide.
If the idea had no merit, they would not have needed to ban it....
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