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bigum
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Topic: single hander for heavyweight Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 10:43am |
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Help! After many years crewing in yacht races I have rediscovered the joy of dinghy racing. I have spent the last two years racing in an elderly firefly and now wish to invest in a new class and have a go at open meetings, championships etc before I get too old. My problem is that I weigh 15 ½ stone ( 100kg ) on a good day and single handers all seem to be designed for much lighter frames. I have looked seriously at Vortex, Blaze, RS300 but weight seems to be the problem. Possible solutions are RS700 (too expensive / difficult), Contender (slow/obscure), Phantom (affordable entry level but expensive to be competitive) or OK (bit weird?) All suggestion welcome apart from “diet” or “look at what they sail at your club”, I’ve tried both. Last thing, budget £2500 max. Fingers crossed ….. |
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Jon Emmett
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 10:54am | |
Although you are unlikely to be able to win lots of pots in the class why not look at a Finn?
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bigum
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 11:23am | |
thanks for the reply but the finn seems to attract people with real money. I have looked at the finn web site and for my money I would be getting a 1970's boat which I assume would be no where near competative ( evan if sailed by an expert ie not me! ) Why would a finn be better for me than a Phantom which is cheaper and less populated by supermen ?
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Strawberry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 11:57am | |
Contenders aren't slow! They kick ass!
How about RS600? Are you definately not interested in having a crew on board? |
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TonyL
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:01pm | |
Haven't sailed a Vortex or RS300, but in my experience (and I'm around
100kg too) you're probably too heavy for a Blaze, great boats for the
money though.
Phantom is an obvious one. Takes weight well, wide range of boats and prices around, though as you've identified £2.5k isn't going to buy you a "current spec" boat (ie epoxy hull/carbon rig). You might get a decent wood or polyester hull with modern rig for your budget, which I suspect would get you nearer the front of the fleet than a similar amount spent on a Finn. |
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catmandoo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:06pm | |
Suprised Scooby aint suggested an Inter 17 yet, will carry weight and cat circuits are a blast in uk.with a kite there's no stopping off wind . I sailed unicorn and A class (delta) at that weight and was competitive too , well within your budget.but no kite. As a Lardy boy myself and jealous of your lightweight !!! I found for competitive monosailing your findings with Finn and Phantom to be true only way to go but to be competitive is to be good and have right kit -exspensive . Trust me solo cat sailing aint the end of life , just the begining !!! You may even get an older Stealth 16 which can be sailed solo without Jib or two up with, both modes carry spinnaker and will take your weight and go well too. you have my sympathies . Give me an IM if you like and I can share my experience without the forum whizzs tearing it to shreds . Good luck
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Scooby_simon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:14pm | |
what catmandoo said; although I want a little more that 2.5K
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bigum
Newbie Joined: 06 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 32 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:30pm | |
Thanks everyone, much more constructive input than I was expecting! Im quite biase towards a monohull but I will be going to look at some of the cats you suggest (on the magic web) this afternoon..... The RS600 is one suggestion, but my reading suggests Im too heavy. I always intended to get a two man boat but recent experiance of crews reliability has put me off ( otherwise I would get an ISO ) any more thoughts.... |
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Contender443
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 1:08pm | |
OK a Contender sailor had to respond to this. A Contender is not slow - PY is 994 compared to 1048 for a Phantom. A Contender is not obscure - it has an open meeting circuit consisting of one open every two weeks with average attendance of 27. It has a National Championship with an average attendance in the 50+ bracket. It also holds World and European Championships with 100+ entrants every year. Need I say more. Then your budget will get you a boat with full carbon rig - there is one for sale on Y&Y at the moment. Check out http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/classes/?s=42&c=12 I know it is a little out of budget but you may be a ble to get it knocked down a bit - that is if it is still available. Last thing is where do you sail? Are there any Contenders close to where you are so that you can have a go. |
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TonyL
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 1:11pm | |
What is the realistic weight carrying range of the Contender? Not being funny, I really don't know the answer. |
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