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Pierre 
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Neptune
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 9:04am |
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Pimp rule 101 that surely
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RS300 and RS200, ex Musto Skiff
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transient
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....oh yes, I know that rule.
 and in this case, if the boat is not class raced, worth experimenting with.......and it does look tidy. |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 1:16pm |
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One of the few bits on my 400 that is working properly is the continuous kicker and cunningham.It's routed to blocks on the grap rail, with elastic under the thwart to take up the slack.
The neat bit about it is you can pull a big handfull of kicker on and it will cleat the other side too, so you don't have to worry about cleating the kicker when you dump it at the windward mark. It's also important that the kicker is not too long when dumped.
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hum3
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 1:20pm |
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There is a rule preventing the introduction of blocks into any system unless it is a permitted mod IIRC. (technically, using a block on the end of the gybing strop is not class legal, but many people do)
This is partly to keep the systems simple (it's a SMOD, and the rules allow the systems work well as they are), avoiding the risk of introducing illegal extra purchases, and in this case, it's also practical. If the kicker is uncleated on the wrong side, the temptation is to pull it on through the takeaway block, and so force the grab rail (which is not designed for this) to part company from the hull...
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RS400atC
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 2:32pm |
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The grab rail takes far more force when it's used as a grab rail.
The LDC supplied continuous system also has blocks in it, at least on the 400.
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hum3
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 5:03pm |
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Trust me, first hand experience!
EDIT - if you pull the kicker on from the 'wrong' side you also have a 2:1 purchase on the grab rail, so the load might be larger than ou think.
And, yes, the 400 does have blocks, but it's 'same same but different' Edited by hum3 - 11 Jun 13 at 5:06pm |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 8:31pm |
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I think I'd rather find out the grab rail is not soundly secured by pulling on the kicker than when I'm using it to get back in the boat!
My blocks are secured to it using little loops of 1mm or so dyneema, these will probably break well before the screws let go. As you say, we digress, the 400 is a bit different. But if you can make it so you can cleat the other side, it's a plus in my book. You pull both sides of the loop and it takes the slack out of both sides. |
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Ian29937
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Posted: 11 Jun 13 at 11:05pm |
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The RS rules are based around controlling variation from the boat RS supply. If they supply the 400 with blocks as part of a continuous system, by definition it is legal. But is this also true of the 200? Different boat, different rules...
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Posted: 16 Jun 13 at 10:11pm |
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hum3: Pulling from the wrong side doesn't give you an extra purchase. It would just be a turning block. There's no advantage to doing this, other than being able to cleat the rope if you forgot, which you can do with a ring.
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