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Poll Question: Which courses do you prefer at opens? Please read the comments first.
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Here's a case in point, Poole Harbour:



Idyllic - all sorts of nooks and crannies to test your real-world ability to sail a boat faster than your neighbour from place to place, whether it's up to Gold or WH5, or round the back of Brownsea Island to Amy Group, sorting out the best of the tide, errant Condor Ferries etc on the way.

Why on earth would I want to go there and then sail the exact same courses as I could on some concrete bowl adjacent the M25?  No reflection on comments above, but in my observation, the supporters of the latter option are people at the top of the class who do not want their position threatened by any additional elements beyond those where they know they have an advantage. 

I can maybe understand it if you have the sort of boat like a 49er that is such a handful that it is enough to keep it pointing in the right direction, the right way up, but for things like Wayfarers/L2k's surely most owners would prefer to take advantage of their surroundings?  Those who don't should possibly be in a more racy class...?


Edited by Medway Maniac - 03 Apr 13 at 5:30pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 5:53pm
As a visiting sailor I wouldn't want to be in the lead Wacko

.....not that that's likely.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 6:10pm
The navigation is, er, interesting at times, but it can be done, and is much more satisfying to me at least than staring at numbers spotting shifts on a compass - I can do that on a PC.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 6:24pm
My wife (crew) navigates. Ouch LoL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SoggyBadger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 6:50pm
Obviously any course worthy of the moniker "decent" would have at least one pub stop en route  Beer
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Peaky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 10:18pm
Am I blind? Where is WH5 on that chart?

But I agree. One of the reasons for travelling is to do something different.

Edit: Just found it!

Edited by Peaky - 03 Apr 13 at 10:20pm
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I was having a chat about this with my brother the other day. I havent really sailed much in the last 10 years, but spent many years racing triangle/sausage. These standard courses make navigation pretty straightforward and allow you to concentrate on sailing fast. On the odd occasion where club courses were set for opens, usually on river courses,  the local guys had an advantage, but it actually made a refreshing change, and we pretty much treated the first race as an orientation race, learning the names and locations of marks.

Having a mix is probably best, I can see the benefit of the standard courses, but it is nice to have a bit of variation.

I learnt to sail on a small lake in the northwest, we had a good number of marks around the pond, and a list of standard courses, with the option to create a bespoke one, It used to amuse me when acting as race officer to set the most convoluted course possible, making the race more of a test of handling than outright boat speed. 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fredexi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Apr 13 at 2:59pm
I try and avoid open meetings where sausage/triangles or any other sort of plastic course is set(and usually miles away from launch site) Wink. Give me a varied course from a club line anyday.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Apr 13 at 4:41pm
depends on the class and venue for me.  if its a one design event and the venue is on a large estuary or sea then olympic/windward leeward is what i want.  if its a local class open meeting or a special race type event then local courses would be better, especially on a restricted river.
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I vastly prefer the variety of courses round the local marks. Learning your way around is just part of the challenge.
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