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billpayer
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Topic: Trapeze harnesses Posted: 24 Sep 05 at 9:56pm |
What is the best way to wear a trapeze harness? Over the years, I've tried over the life jacket, under the life jacket, with splash coat, without splash coat, with and without rash vest, etc etc etc......Looking in any typical sailing magazine, there seems to be a lot of different options. The reason behind this, is for kids wearing a trapeze harness. My 10 year old daughter like to be on the trapeze, but her life jacket always seems to ride up to high and no amount of adjusting of harness or life jacket seems to get it all to sit right...any suggestions? |
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Isis
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 05 at 10:19pm |
Sounds like it is more down to the cut of the bouyancy aid to me but
the majority of people tend to wear the bouyancy aid over the top and a
spraytop underneith if needed.
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49erGBR735HSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 05 at 10:43pm |
I wear my bouyancy aid over my trapeze harness for the reason that if I get trapped under the boat, I can take it off to prevent the aid from trapping me up against the hull because most of the "new-design" boats don't have an air-pocket when fully inverted. However other people wear a harness over their bouyancy aid so that if the hook snags on any part of the boat, they can release themselves from their harness..... I prefer the option I use because harnesses can have parts cut away with knifes, whereas it would be really hard to take a harness off then a bouancy aid off when being pushed up under a hull with no air. I also feel more comfortable with the straps closer to me than over a bouancy aid. If your daughter has draw strings at the bottom of her life jacket, make sure they are as tight as possible. |
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ssailor
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 05 at 7:01pm |
definityly wear the buoyancy aid over the tope - it can be grabbed when
pullin someone from the water, it can be removed as Dennis said and
also, the harness shoulder straps will end up either side of the
buoacny aid sections, makin it very annoying!
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Spot192
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 05 at 7:20pm |
first time i trapezed was at the age of 3. there my father wrapped me
up in a wetsuit over it my mini harness and then over the harness the
bouyancy aid. was no problem then as far as i can remember and all the
kids i teach how to trapeze i tell to do the same. it seems to work!
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Iain C
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 5:11pm |
I'd agree on the earlier comments about the cut of the bouyancy aid...loads of them out there seem to ride up, either due to trapezing or floating. When your weight is on the wire the hook moves away from your body and the shoulder straps tend to push the bouyancy upwards from just above the hook. Re the floating thing, I have been doing a lot of rescue work at my club recently and it amazes me how many people you see floating round looking like turtles...shoulders of bouyancy aids over their ears and their noses being held conveniently out of the water by the neckline. Some bouyancy aids seem more of a hindrance than a help, although I have to say the Magic Marine ones with the wide internal velcro elastic strap seem excellent.
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timnoyce
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 5:43pm |
my
favourite ever bouyancy aid was the one i had when i was a nipper, it
had the little foot loops to step through so that it couldn't ride up.
Why don't more designs have this? I've been experimenting with
different combos over the summer and i've settled on
rashy/wetsuit/bouyancy aid/(rashy or spray top)/harness. I have a nappy
harness with covered adjustment buckles so there is no problem with
getting caught on anything so i like to wear it over the top and it
also helps to heep the life jacket in place. I hadn't really
thought about the safety implications of the different layers I just
hope never to find myself in that situation.
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Chris Noble
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 6:02pm |
a lto of skiff guys i know tend not to wear a bouyancy aid, as it can be more dangerous to wear one than not when skiff sailing. If you end up under the boat you can easily be pinned under there by the bouynacy.
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timnoyce
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 6:06pm |
well
i don't want to start the skiff/non skiff debate again but i do sail a
twin wire cherub. I always wear a life jacket because thats the rules
isn't it?! Where i sail inland they try and make the windsurfers wear
life jackets!
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49erGBR735HSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 7:07pm |
I bought a Henri-Lloyd bouancy aid back in 2000, was quite a high cut and fits really well over a harness. Its all faded now but I'll never part with it because it fits so well. I'd prefer not to wear an aid at all but most club rules stipulate you must. Found out way back that I have enough bouancy in my harness and its much better than wearing an aid over the top, allows you to swim easier but you must go with the rules and in the worst case scenario it might be okay for me to do it but a young pupil could copy me through example, not wearing a harness and find themselves in a dangerous situation because they don't have any bouancy.
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