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piglet
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Topic: Laser luff tube claim Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 2:38pm |
Eldest son did the usual with the top section & sail.
No quibble with the top section but the sail didn't rip into the panel so our insurer wants to repair. One sailing colleague has suggested this may render the sail illegal, another thinks that Laser rules permits up to 75% of the luff tube can be replaced.
Any wisdom gratefully recieved.
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Fraggle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 4:00pm |
About the best info I can find for you is here http://www.laserinternational.org/rules/classrules/partthree/repairsandmaintenance
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winging it
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 4:17pm |
someone here had such a claim and the insurers simply coughed for a new sail. I think there were multiple tears though.
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the same, but different...
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LASERNUT
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 4:43pm |
Done loads of these. Legal if it only a small section of the sleeve but not if it is in the panel of the sail.
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:10pm |
Thanks Fraggle
26.d. Sail panels and luff sleeves shall not be replaced.
Doesn't mention patching, and doesn't make distinction beteen luff tube or panel.
Now even more confused.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:25pm |
Section 26.a says that you can make repairs. However section 26.d says these cannot be whole panels/whole luff tube. So I'd say this means the original material needs to stay in place and be patched. Its a sensible way of ensuring there aren't any "accidental" shape changes. Edited by JimC - 26 Nov 12 at 5:26pm |
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Lukepiewalker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:27pm |
a Repairs to the sail may be
carried out without violation of these Rules provided such repairs are
made in such a way that the essential shape, characteristics or function
of the original are not affected.
(I removed some superfluous bits) I read part d as stopping you from replacing the entire luff tube (which might allow you to alter the sail shape/setting/relationship to the mast) But part a clearly allows repairs. |
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Lukepiewalker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 12 at 5:29pm |
Also, Jim is much faster than me at computering...
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rich96
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 11:27am |
I had something similar - the sail was awful afterwards - never looked the same again.
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Contender443
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Nov 12 at 11:37am |
I really don't understand why the insurance companies still cover Laser top sections and ripped sails. This is surely just wear and tear and will happen to most Laser rigs in due course.
If they were to exclude these claims then they could reduce the premium. I bet you they have a few a week when it is windy.
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