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Hoe much do you look at your tell tails

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Topic: Hoe much do you look at your tell tails
Posted By: ifoxwell
Subject: Hoe much do you look at your tell tails
Date Posted: 29 Jul 12 at 8:50pm
Personally I'm glued to them upwind in a two sail boat and nearly as much in a single sail boat.

Just been watching some of the on board footage with Ben in His Finn and he barely seems to glance at them at all apparently preferring to watch the fleet and the wind and waves.

So is this what I'm doing wrong?

Ian


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 29 Jul 12 at 9:16pm
People used to tell me to use tel tales, but they often belie what's going on, if you can get to the state of 'feeling', what's happening its so much more reliable. Never really thought I'd get it in a boat, but this EPS gives the same sensation as a board, and it's almost back. So I guess Ainslie must be at one with his craft to the point he doesn't need tel tales either, and has that same ability.

If you read that Eric Twiname book, he talks of being able to sail the boat on autopilot and being able to pay more attention to what's going on outside the boat rather than inside.

I can do it now up to about 15 knots wind, then lack of confidence still overwhelms me, but it's great when it's happening, not that I'm anywhere even approaching Ainslie's league nor anyone else for that matter, but I do sail better by 'instinct' than by focussing on anything going on in the boat. I even attached one of those pointy at the wind things that goes on the mast, find that confuses me, it tells me one thing my ears and feel tell me something else.


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Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 29 Jul 12 at 9:28pm
Possibly the worst thing in the world - Wet jib Cry

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Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 6:34am
Originally posted by ifoxwell

Just been watching some of the on board footage with Ben in His Finn and he barely seems to glance at them at all apparently preferring to watch the fleet and the wind and waves.


"Heads out of the boat" is a motto used by a keelboat team that's done a lot of winning over multiple classes.


Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 9:25am
Just been watching some of the on board footage with Ben in His Finn and he barely seems to glance at them at all apparently preferring to watch the fleet and the wind and waves.

I'd imagine he doesn't look at them much as he has spent so much time in the boat that he can "feel" when the sail is trimmed right. For mortals on the other hand ...



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Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 9:36am
My grammar and spelling is bad at the best of times but clearly I should have been looking at the keyboard more when asking this question Embarrassed

Ian


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Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 12:12pm
Upwind in above 10kts ish you will be inside the telltales - you go almost entirely on steering to keep the boat at constant heel.
Dead downwind is more feel too, although if steering around a lot on the up turns there may be a quick glance to ensure that he has come up broad enough to get flow.
I would imagine that in 6kts or less upwind he will be looking at telltales and waves on bow most of the time with discrete glances about to check whats happening verey 10secs.
Telltales pretty important on reaches too unless overpowered.



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