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Topic: Tacking sticks
Posted By: popeye_ali
Subject: Tacking sticks
Date Posted: 02 Jul 12 at 9:15pm
Hi All anyone know of a company that makes and sells tacking sticks?

Cheers


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RS400, RS600, RS700, RS800, Int Moth, Laser. Musto Skiff (current)



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Posted By: Ginge
Date Posted: 02 Jul 12 at 10:31pm
I think I've seen them on an eBay shop, no idea what you use them for though , I assume currents, but I'm a pond sailor

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Laser


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 8:38am
What is a tacking stick, please? I have visions of an old person crossing a Merlin using walking sticks?!

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 9:12am
these   http://www.c2marine.co.uk/trapeze_handle.php - http://www.c2marine.co.uk/trapeze_handle.php

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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 9:15am
it's very straightforward to buy the bits and make your own.  Instructions somewhere on the contender website.

http://contenderclass.org/en/media/pictures/324-aus265/album.html?albumid=11 - Carbon version

you can also do something simpler with plastic pipe or tube.  Worth going for the cheaper option until you work out if you can use them!


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 9:23am
[TUBE]CVfJbX4Mmfs[/TUBE]

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 10:27am
They look great.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: popeye_ali
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 9:49pm
Thanks Neptune, exactly what I was after!

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RS400, RS600, RS700, RS800, Int Moth, Laser. Musto Skiff (current)


Posted By: popeye_ali
Date Posted: 03 Jul 12 at 9:52pm
I can never tell what all these guys do with the main sheet? Do they all use a suicide clip on the harness?

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RS400, RS600, RS700, RS800, Int Moth, Laser. Musto Skiff (current)


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 8:38am
Originally posted by popeye_ali

I can never tell what all these guys do with the main sheet?


Swim after it as often as not down our way..LOL


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Posted By: oldarn
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Rupert

What is a tacking stick, please? I have visions of an old person crossing a Merlin using walking sticks?!


No, they now use central hoops to steady themselves, as we do in the ?


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 12:04pm
a little clip/hook on the harness takes the mainsheet with you through the tack.  I spent ages getting this method of tacking sorted then buggered my wrist, never be strong enough now Ouch

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Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 4:12pm
What sort of clip winging it? I have been looking for one for use on the skiff.

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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: sten
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 4:21pm
http://www.mustoskiff.com/pimp-my-skiff/harness.htm - http://www.mustoskiff.com/pimp-my-skiff/harness.htm


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 8:02pm
Seen those, but Where do I get those clips though Sten, I can't find them anywhere?

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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 8:11pm
They used to teach you to chuck the main sheet into the middle of the boat, then pick it up on the way through, in them there Musto Skiff Boat things..

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Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 04 Jul 12 at 9:55pm
Most chandlers will sell those plastic clips.  http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-Nab-Shackle-%28Pair%29--BAI_Y29111000.htm - http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-Nab-Shackle-(Pair)--BAI_Y29111000.htm  called nabshackles.

I used a different method in the 700 where I had a metal (plastic works too) ring on a 30cm dyneema strop with a bowline tied in the end. Then on my harness I had a 5cm bit of dyneema with a plastic bobble on the end. You can pop the bowline over the bobble and the mainsheet stays with you. If you capsize a sharp tug on the line clears it from the bobble and you can swim away. Much neater than a clip I thought and much safer!

I know people who use very heavy duty velcro in a similar way.


Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 8:27am
You shouldnt need to do anything unusual with the mainsheet providing its long enough you can outstretch with it in your hand as your going out.

I can wire to wire on mine without any mainsheet clips.etc. if i let go of the mainsheet its cleated in and i make sure the sheet is dangling just over the edge of the hull so i can bend my knees and pick it up to sheet in and point higher.

Dan


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Laser 184084
Tasar 3501
RS600 698
RS600 782


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 9:15am
Originally posted by laser193713


I used a different method in the 700 where I had a metal (plastic works too) ring on a 30cm dyneema strop with a bowline tied in the end. Then on my harness I had a 5cm bit of dyneema with a plastic bobble on the end. You can pop the bowline over the bobble and the mainsheet stays with you. If you capsize a sharp tug on the line clears it from the bobble and you can swim away. Much neater than a clip I thought and much safer!

.

I think i get it, but don't suppose you still have a picture do you?  How did you stop it twisting?


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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 9:16am
Originally posted by hollandsd

You shouldnt need to do anything unusual with the mainsheet providing its long enough you can outstretch with it in your hand as your going out.

I can wire to wire on mine without any mainsheet clips.etc. if i let go of the mainsheet its cleated in and i make sure the sheet is dangling just over the edge of the hull so i can bend my knees and pick it up to sheet in and point higher.

Dan

It the downwind bit when its all going Pete Tong and you need to ease a bit of main but your arms are full of kite sheet.


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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 9:23am
I just sewed on one of these

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381

useful for when you just don't have enough hands.  I know Rick had some clever system in the mps which made sure you picked up the right part of the sheet too.


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 9:36am
Originally posted by winging it

I just sewed on one of these

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381

useful for when you just don't have enough hands.  

And your teeth? 


Interesting you sew stuff Wing Wang, I've got these jeans with holes in the knee.Wink


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 9:43am
Originally posted by winging it

I just sewed on one of these

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381

useful for when you just don't have enough hands.  I know Rick had some clever system in the mps which made sure you picked up the right part of the sheet too.

Well things have improved with product branding... at least Allen Bros are giving you a clear indication of the area of the harness to stitch it to with a name like that.


Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 10:52am
Originally posted by Neptune

Originally posted by laser193713


I used a different method in the 700 where I had a metal (plastic works too) ring on a 30cm dyneema strop with a bowline tied in the end. Then on my harness I had a 5cm bit of dyneema with a plastic bobble on the end. You can pop the bowline over the bobble and the mainsheet stays with you. If you capsize a sharp tug on the line clears it from the bobble and you can swim away. Much neater than a clip I thought and much safer!

.

I think i get it, but don't suppose you still have a picture do you?  How did you stop it twisting?

No pics that I can find sadly. It never really seemed to twist for some reason. As far as picking up the right end is concerned I just sort of got on with it and pulled it, never got me in any trouble. This was on a 700 so don't see why a musto should be different.  

I could try and make a rubbish paint drawing but perhaps some step by step instructions would be better...

1) Take 5cm of dyneema with bobble on one end. Tie to harness. (I liked it close to the hook but far enough away that it didnt tangle.

2) take 30cm length of dyneema. In one end tie a bowline which is just big enough to go over bobble. To big and it will fall off all the time, too small and it is hard to get on and off. At other end tie the 30cm length to a plastic ring.

3) When rigging mainsheet pass the tail through the plastic ring and tie the end to a point in the boat. I also experimented with elastic take ups but never really got it to work. Make sure mainsheet is long enough that the boom can go out with you on the wire and the sheet through the strop.

PM me for a rubbish paint drawing!


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 10:55am
Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by winging it

I just sewed on one of these

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381

useful for when you just don't have enough hands.  I know Rick had some clever system in the mps which made sure you picked up the right part of the sheet too.

Well things have improved with product branding... at least Allen Bros are giving you a clear indication of the area of the harness to stitch it to with a name like that.


I just knew someone would say that! Wink


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 10:56am
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by winging it

I just sewed on one of these

http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381 - http://shop.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=34498&cg=7&mc=81&cct=4&sc=381

useful for when you just don't have enough hands.  

And your teeth? 


Interesting you sew stuff Wing Wang, I've got these jeans with holes in the knee.Wink


wear your faffy kewel knee pads then...and stop grovelling.


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the same, but different...



Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 11:48am
Originally posted by winging it

it's very straightforward to buy the bits and make your own.  Instructions somewhere on the contender website.

http://contenderclass.org/en/media/pictures/324-aus265/album.html?albumid=11 - Carbon version

you can also do something simpler with plastic pipe or tube.  Worth going for the cheaper option until you work out if you can use them!


Not sure if it's only me, but I can't seem to open any of the pics on that link??


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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry


Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 05 Jul 12 at 1:04pm
plastic water pipe, you don't cry when you have to cut it shorter, it's pretty robust and the ends can be rounded with a file quickly and easily, so it don't chew your lines up, easy to replace too


Posted By: Ammersee
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 1:14pm
Look here: Some very nice tacking sticks :) :

http://ammersee-westkueste.de/trapezstoecke.html

Hermann


Posted By: Ammersee
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 1:15pm
%20 - http://ammersee-westkueste.de/trapezstoecke.html


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 2:41pm
Eerm wow, euro rate must have changed a lot since I last looked!

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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor


Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by Ammersee

%20 - http://ammersee-westkueste.de/trapezstoecke.html
300 euros, you are funny!!!LOL


Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 5:43pm
I hope that's for a pair?

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Peter
Ex Cont 707
Ex Laser 189635
DY 59


Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 24 Nov 12 at 6:21pm
A boom isn't much more!



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