Extreme 40s
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Category: Multihulls
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Topic: Extreme 40s
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Subject: Extreme 40s
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 4:21am
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First of the Extreme 40s now on the water http://www.volvoextreme40.org - http://www.volvoextreme40.org
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 11:40am
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wow, looks a bit like b&q ellen macarthur's boat
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: jhart
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 2:07pm
| WOw that looks amazing and so farst . looks like a helll of a lot of fun |
Posted By: Jalani
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 9:22pm
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You mean, like, it's got more than one hull and has a mast and sails? |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 31 Jul 05 at 10:14pm
Lol yeah thats about rite  ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: TheSeaFalcon
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 9:05am
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I want one! ------------- x--x--x<x>x--x--x Topper 41825 Cherub 2539 (going, going and not quite but nearly gone)! |
Posted By: spiderg
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 9:20am
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Tremendous. Although I don't quite see B&Q. I hope you enjoy it.
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 10:23am
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I want one too; shame the budget for my new boat won't streach that far.... ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 11:25am
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I think I'll have to have another chat with our sponsors
LOA 40 ft BEAM MAX 23ft MAST HIGHT 62ft (2 part mast) MAIN area 75 Mē JIB area 25 Mē GENAKER area 78 Mē DISPLACEMENT 1250 kg (including safety & engines) TOP SPEED 40 kts *One complete boat ready to sail *One fully battened Mainsail made from Carbon / Mylar. *One fully battened Jib made from Carbon / Mylar. *One roller furler reacher made from laminate *2 x 6hp motors with fuel tanks *One trailer/trolley *One painted 40 ft high cube container *Safety gear pack * 299.000,- (ex Vat.)
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 1:19pm
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300K euro, supose it's only 10 Tornado's !
Umm.....
Suppose I could re-mortgage 1/2 the house....
Eeeek this is possible..
Imagine the scene "Hi <insert wife's name>, just re-mortgaged the house to buy a boat" Slap...
------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 1:40pm
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if you survive the slap/divorce proceedings, can i sail it with you? ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 1:50pm
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I'm pushing my luck with my current plans for my next boat. There is no point at all in me asking about adding a couple of 100K GBP to the mortgage ! I'll just have to keep dreaming...
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 10:41pm
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kk i thought it wa s a bit bigger than it is!
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 10:44pm
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Isnt B&Q a trimaran anyway? ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 11:34pm
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Yup ! ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 12:33pm
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true... Kingfisher 2 then!!!!!!!!!
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 12:34pm
| I dont understand from the drawings how you can have a designer and a creator?! Especially when its just a reinvention of the F40... |
Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 1:26pm
| Does anybody else not get these boats? They're the size and cost of a yacht but with the practicality of a dinghy, but with less places to sail them and less of a race circuit.. I'd love to have a go on one, but it's not exactly at the top of my wish list of boats! |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 1:47pm
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I don't think they are for "ordinary people", even those with the money to get one. They are designed to appeal to sponsored teams by being spectacular enough to get TV coverage. For the most part, by the time people have that kind of money to spend, they are at a point in their lives where something with a keel appeals a bit more. |
Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 1:53pm
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Curlyben you should have 2 wish lists. 1. Boats you wish to own 2. Boats you wish to have a go on. The Extreme 40s, VO70, B&Q trimaran, Open 60 Mono and tris, 18 foot skiff are all my number 2 list. ------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 2:01pm
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I see what you mean, what I forgot to mention in my first post is that
I think thye look almost boring - they're too big and heavy for weight
shifts to make a huge difference, you're just sat up on the side, but
unlike an offshore racer you're probably not going to be able to sail
it in extreme conditions! If anyone can arrange for me
to have a go and prove me wrong I'd be happy to try
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 2:36pm
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The blurb I read was that they will be racing in up to 35kts Now that will be exciting (in a brown trousers kinda way ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 2:45pm
You're probably right. You'd never see people buying boats like these
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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 2:51pm
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I said "for the most part". There are exceptions. For example Stephen Fein in the UK has had a long series of extreme boats, all called "Full Pelt" (he is a furrier). But several of the boats you showed have sponsor's logos on the side, which tends to prove my point. These are professional's boats, not "people's boats". |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 2:56pm
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Yes. However I can't decide whether a mini-transat is on my list 1. or 2! Actually though, there aren't many boats I wouldn't at least like to try. |
Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 3:00pm
I missed that bit! Yeah that does sound pretty exciting, especially as I didn't notice toe straps or anything else to keep the crew and the boat in the same place! |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 3:12pm
As do many yachts..... My boats have had sponnsor logos on the side too, but I own the boats whilst the sponnsorship $$$$ only help with the running costs.
Don't forget there are mono sailors and cat sailors. Most cats sailors move onto larger cats when they get older. Our cat club has a large multi division also with not one of these boats sponnsored. Most of the owners are successful buisness men, as with those who own large yacths. If you are not up to the race boats when you mature you may perfer a crusing multi such as....
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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 3:20pm
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Actually not that many in the UK. Some classes ban sponsored boats (e.g. Hunter 707 - one of the biggest keelboat classes here). Some race organisations ban them (JOG, one of the two main organisers of offshore races). Some major events have historically charged very high entrance fees for sponsored boats. It seems to be different in France where most racing keelboats have sponsor's logos. |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 3:24pm
I've got stickers on my boat; but I'm not sponsered. However; I've something in the pipeline (coming to a browser near you soon) that will (hopefully) sponser my sailing....(BTW anyone wanna buy a boat ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 12:28pm
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Stefan, I can assure you that there are a lot of privatly owned, amaturely raced large Multis out there from 24 foot to 60 foot plus. Some of these owners are in there twilight years whilst some are younger, sucessful people to shared or co-owmed baots. Just the same as Yachts. There are even more private owners young and old that own cruising multihulls also. You are correct in your statement "I don't think they are for ordinary people" They are for people who have vision, a disire to own something away form the norm "ordinary peoples boat" to sail a boat that is fast and exciting. There are many places to race multies, some have the practicality of a yacht and even more. ie accomidation, stable platform for crusing. More on deck / tramp space. More user friendly for kids, family and non sailors when crusing (does not heel). An added advantade of multies are that you can moore then in places where monos can't..... Shallower water. You can also run them up onto the beach. Check out this Fusion 40.... Quiet a fast racing / crusing catamran.
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Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 12:41pm
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Seawind Cats - A rock solid cruising cat..... Excellent charter cat too. Check out the SeaWind, virtual tour of there boats...... Some very cool photography. Click and hold on the image and move the mouse arong for a 360 degree view. Seawind 1000 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=22 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=22 Seawind 1160 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=141 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=141 Seawind 1200 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=156 - http://www.seawindcats.com/index.pl?page=156 -------------
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 4:47am
Does anyone have any information on the Decision 35s, designed by Sebastian Schmidt and how they compare to the VO40s, I reckon they'd be pretty equally matched. In fact I'd be willing to put money on the D35s beating VO40s ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 8:46am
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Here's a pic Dennis..... From previous discusions on other forums, the concensis is that the V40 is quicker..... Would need a match up though to be sure.
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 9:11am
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I'd have to agree with Stephen. Overall the VO40's would be
quicker; but I'd think (and it's only an opinion that I cannot back yup
with facts) that the D35's would be quicker in the light stuff. I'd like a sail on both to decide mind.... ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 10:54am
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Its kinda like comparing a track car to a rally car mind - I wouldn't
think the D35 would cope on anything but the lakes they were designed
for, round the cans even slightly offshore would be pretty scary... Great to see so much coverage of the VX40's! |
Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 2:59pm
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Any spotted the photos in the report for the Rio GP are the same as the ones in the Sanexo GP? http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=20743 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=20743 http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=19596 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=19596 ------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: Quagers
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 12:38pm
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From the official website:
with big cats come big crashes
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 2:37pm
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does anyone know of any pictures of basilica sailing at weymouth speed week with 4 trapezes? i know there was a photo boat following her ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 27 Oct 06 at 4:54pm
The Daily Sail has an article and video clip. They only reached 20kts sadly which is something you could do on your 5.9 with the kite up and a decent breeze. The main feature of the article seems to be about the gymnastics of getting and staying on the wire. As the VX40 is a non trap boat, its sides are rounded and smooth and evrey time the windward hull touched down the slowing effect was to throw all trapesers forward. Solution was a "reaching line" to stop one of the four flying forward and everyone else held onto him! ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 1:40am
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well id like to say i know they saw 31 knots on the gps but they only got a recorded 20 knots due to the course layout! ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 28 Oct 06 at 12:28pm
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Those pics look good. Have seens some pretty cool vids on youtube of the V40s crashing and burning. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |