Nacra's Olympic multihull trial entries
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Topic: Nacra's Olympic multihull trial entries
Posted By: Nacraman
Subject: Nacra's Olympic multihull trial entries
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 10:22am
 Nacra F16 with 2 part carbon mast
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Posted By: themeaningoflife
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 11:04am
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That is awesome! ------------- Cambridge University Lightweight Rowing Club RS800 1128 kindly sponsored by http://www.rwo-marine.com" rel="nofollow - RWO Marine |
Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 12:34pm
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Although labelled as a Nacra 17 it is in fact 17'6" long!...more detailed info to follow....
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Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 12:43pm
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If the 17 doesn't get picked as the Olympic Multihull will Nacra make it anyway? ------------- https://www.sailingchandlery.com/rope-for-sale.html" rel="nofollow - Rope for sale https://www.sailingchandlery.com" rel="nofollow - Sailing Chandlery - Online Chandlery - Number 1 Rated |
Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 12:56pm
I think this will depend on demand, but given that the design is expected to easily outperform the F18 and the tooling will already be in place it will be a distinct possibility that it will go in production regardless of Olympic selection... ------------- "God bless those Pagans"-H.J.Simpson "Beer, now there's a temporary solution"-H.J.Simpson http://www.nacra.co.uk - www.nacra.co.uk |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 2:31pm
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Looks very nice
Can you explain the point of the curved boards.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 2:49pm
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When the boat heels they generate lift. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 4:01pm
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Excuse my ignorance then, but will the 17 meet the F18 rules? ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 4:08pm
I don't know about the entire box rule but can confirm that curved boards and carbon mast are banned by F18 class rules.... ------------- "God bless those Pagans"-H.J.Simpson "Beer, now there's a temporary solution"-H.J.Simpson http://www.nacra.co.uk - www.nacra.co.uk |
Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 25 Jan 12 at 5:18pm
That's what I had thought. Chris Field says that on the 'A' class they are no better to windward, straight boards generally faster, but curved boards lift a boat, sailed flat, out of the water downwind. Would a double-hander be any different? ------------- Laser number 9 |
Posted By: johnready
Date Posted: 26 Jan 12 at 10:33am
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I'd like to know the cost of the curved boards when they break? The Carbon 20 is certainly a beast. but hasn't taken off over here and I understand that the boat out of Thorpe Bay broke boards readily and cost thousands to replace. I love innovation in cat sailing and would love to sail the boat, but am not sure that Nacras delivery is yet reliable enough, or if I could afford it :( Do you think ISAF will pick a 'drawing board' boat given the disaster they had with the elliot?
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Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 26 Jan 12 at 11:40am
Hi John, over 70 F20 Carbon's sold around the World (3 in the UK) so far with a further 5 sold this week by Nacra Europe! There were a few breakages on the very first boards (early 2010), but there was an immediate redesign of the boards and there have been no further breakages since then despite being sailed in some very testing conditions around the world. All broken boards were replaced under warranty with NO cost to the customer despite what you may have been told (best not to listen to hearsay, but chat to Nacra direct!!). Since the redesigned boards were supplied to the Thorpe Bay boat(which is now in new hands at Bala) there has not been a single problem with the boat, so much so that the owner states that it is the best finished and designed boat he has ever owned. Both of the other UK F20 Carbons were supplied new with the updated boards and have not had a single problem. Nacra's ability to deliver the product should not be doubted. Since moving production to the Far East the quality of the boats is as good if not better than any manufacturer out there. With over 80 dealerships around the world Nacra's products have truly global distribution and dealer support. Are you really doubting Nacra's ability to design, in collaboration with Morrelli and Melvin (accepted worldwide multihull design leaders), and build cutting edge, world class, high performance catamarans? ------------- "God bless those Pagans"-H.J.Simpson "Beer, now there's a temporary solution"-H.J.Simpson http://www.nacra.co.uk - www.nacra.co.uk |
Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 26 Jan 12 at 11:50am
There is a problem with Andy Gray's F20 at Stone...... It's pink!!! ;-) But I understand that was the choice of the owner, not Nacra. ------------- https://www.sailingchandlery.com/rope-for-sale.html" rel="nofollow - Rope for sale https://www.sailingchandlery.com" rel="nofollow - Sailing Chandlery - Online Chandlery - Number 1 Rated |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 12 at 11:55am
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A good boat builder supplies whatever colour of boat you want, even if it is a terrible, terrible choice. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Yello Streak
Date Posted: 26 Jan 12 at 1:02pm
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still it'll be worthless on the used market in a few years just because of its colour :)
Anyone thinking of buying a Nacra 20 Carbon should seriously consider Pink, Lime, Woodgrain etc as finishes since I cant' ever afford a new one!
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Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 27 Jan 12 at 12:31pm
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John Experience shows us that ISAF will do what the hell they want even if it is to the detriment of the sport. As to the cost the problem for you is that will it go in your trailer
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Posted By: Menace
Date Posted: 27 Jan 12 at 7:57pm
| I liked the F16, but love the 17. Think it'll be better suited to our weight to be honest. If all else fails, I still really fancy an Infusion or the F20C. Big fan of Nacra, keep up the good work! |
Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 29 Jan 12 at 9:04pm
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There are now two Carbon F20's at Bala and there have been no problems with them other than being in creditably fast in the right hands. I
still struggle with the NACRA F18 and now the 17 as this will surely dilute an
already small catamaran market which will make the choice even worse if the 17
does get selected. For crews coming into catamarans with an eye on Rio do they
have a F18 for competitive sailing in UK and Europe and a 17 for Olympic trials??
Surely this defeats the object of keeping the costs down. ------------- John Tuckwell Development Executive GJW Insurance www.gjwdirect.co.uk Insurance rebel without a clause. |
Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 30 Jan 12 at 11:25am
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I bet a friend £10 that we would not see the Hobie 16 at Rio in 2016. How safe is my money?
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Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 30 Jan 12 at 11:28am
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Only £10 I would have bet a lot money that Hobie 16's are not at Rio. So your money is very safe ------------- John Tuckwell Development Executive GJW Insurance www.gjwdirect.co.uk Insurance rebel without a clause. |
Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 30 Jan 12 at 11:31am
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So John, you trust the muppets at ISAf implicitly to do what's right for sailing? I don't, so a tenner is quite enough thank you! Robin ------------- Laser number 9 |
Posted By: Yello Streak
Date Posted: 30 Jan 12 at 11:31am
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I agree those 20c's are awesomely quick.. F16, F18 now F17.. can I have an F19 so I can still drink beer and be competitive.. :) I think for the Olympics the 17 is the perfect boat.. it ticks every box box and many more.. but the idea of the Olympics is to be involving and open to anyone if they are good enough.. F18 is also very possibly the ideal boat for the Olympics but the problem lies with F18s coming in many shapes and sizes.. to have a F18 as the Olympic boat they would need to standardize on one particular boat but which one? the two main contenders here are the Tiger which is no longer manufactured or the Infusion but in Mk2 form is still quite new.. so which one would it be.. whichever one it is will have a long future even outside F18 box rule racing.. so long as it was still built and I think this is where the main issue is for F18 as 'the boat' The only stable thing to do is to settle on one design which knowing ISAF and thier single-minded and uninformed approach to boats will no doubt mean the Hobie 16 has a long life yet.... Heaven forbid... for me.. Nacra F20 Carbon
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