The Most annoying thing in sailing....
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Topic: The Most annoying thing in sailing....
Posted By: Ruscoe
Subject: The Most annoying thing in sailing....
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 3:54pm
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I have to say this one annoys me more then anything else, why is it when you advertise a boat for sale you get loads of people asking for pictures of the boat and then never e-mailing back to say thank you, or thanks but thats not what i was looking for??? It drives me to distraction, if you just want pictures of my boat ask, i will gladly send them on. But why the f**k e-mail and not respond????
Anyway rant over, what annoys you most about anything to do with sailing? ------------- |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 3:58pm
| Wet suit boots that you forgot to dry out immediately you got home... In fact rancid damp sailing gear in general. |
Posted By: JohnW
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 4:32pm
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Weed. |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 4:34pm
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people who shout at beginners and kids. they really peeve me. everyone has to start somewhere. and I agree about people and boat ads. bad manners. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 4:36pm
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Laser 2000s. Actually no, Laser 2000 PYs. ------------- |
Posted By: Neal_g
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 4:58pm
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people whinging about PYS, people complaing about there boat not performing well in handicap races and wanting to change it to make it better.
cost of fuel to get to events not enough class racing at clubs these days.
Not being a a multi millionaire and owning one of each boat so my life could just be 1 nationals after another ------------- (Redoubt Sc) Miracle 4040 GP14 13407 Crewsaver phase 2 range now available to buy online on at http://www.gibsonsails.com |
Posted By: r2d2
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 5:00pm
because the Laser 2000 PY is too high or too low for you? or what exactly?
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Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 5:27pm
| people who by the fastest boat to be ahead on the water and still end up finishing last, i mean why not just learn to sail a boat that suits you and that you can sail to be competitive? |
Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 5:29pm
couldent agree more
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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 5:47pm
We used to have a bit of that at our Club a few years ago, then one day a bunch of my youth group came ashore at lunchtime and told me about the poor manners/standards/cheating that they'd been sujected to. I had a quick chat with the Rear Com. then stood on a chair and explained a few facts to the membership. In fairness, I actually received a round of applause from the vast majority when I'd finished, and I've not needed to do it since!  ------------- |
Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 6:07pm
'Favourable' - for them. ------------- |
Posted By: kevg
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 6:18pm
| People who only think a dinghy is a childs inflatable toy. |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 6:58pm
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1. The selfish arrogant attitude that is becoming prevalent, particularly in singlehanded classes - just look who has laid their mast/sail out across the path you need to drag your boat along, who has left their trolley in the way and who has dumped their boat on the slipway but isn't ready to go and is holding everyone up. Usually a single hander. Think of others before yourself...
2. People who pump their way around a course in light winds
3. Those who ignore the rules and don't do turns.
4. The culture of not protesting and clubs discouraging protests because it's too much trouble for a club.
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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 7:22pm
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The none standardisation of the bits, all those stupid little things with holes in them that hold the mast wire bits, you'd think they'd make the holes the same size.. dicks. ------------- https://www.ease-distribution.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ease-distribution.com/ |
Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 7:30pm
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Packing the boat up in the cold/wet at an open and then having a drive that ends in the dark and having to unlock the club. ------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 7:55pm
Cor, a grumpy old b**tard thread......just what I need right now
Sailors who criticise abilities, performance, choice of boat from afar in a derogatory way......trying to bolster their own fragile egos.
..........and everthing, including the forces of anarchy (actually, I'm with Reggie here):
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Posted By: Mister Nick
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 8:19pm
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People that break rules and then stick by their guns and insist that they haven't done anything wrong no matter how many people prove that they have. I was at the an IRC Competition on the East Coast in the summer and we ended up in a Port/Starboard incident with another boat. We were on starboard tack, called it numerous times and they still refused to duck us or tack and we had to take pretty sudden action to avoid them. They sailed away laughing. The same guys got the female helm of the boat on her own in the bar that evening and started having a go at her and saying we were lying about having to take avoiding action and claiming that they didn't see us do it. When we found out we confronted them, completely ripped their logic to pieces and proved them wrong and they still refused to accept that they weren't right. And their explanation for the obvious laughing was 'We were all laughing because we were having such a good time'. Still makes my blood boil.
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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 22 Nov 11 at 9:34pm
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When you pick a great shift or so you thought lifting you most of the way to the windward mark only to see it shift back putting you completly the wrong side and get buried by the rest of the fleet. ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 3:09am
+1  ------------- |
Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 3:50am
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1) Able bodied People who leave launching trolleys’ on the ramp - no respect for anybody else - answer drop them 1 place down the results.
2) Wind rowers & port / starboard boat / sail trimmers -- rule 42 cheating b**tards 3) Clubs who don`t make it easy to use the facilities’ of the club when attending an event.
------------- Phantom 1181 AC-227 IC 304 blaze / halo 586 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 6:51am
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The huge fields of unused boats at almost every club, slowly rotting.
------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 7:28am
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^ yes, and especially when you're short of space for new members' boats.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 8:21am
+1 i wanted to join HISC but they dont have any parking, ffs im going to have 2 dinghys and a yacht there, you think they may be a bit more accomadating ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 8:34am
In some ways they're amongst your most valuable members because they pay the subs without using the facilities, thus subsidising the active sailors. There must be very few clubs who could cope if all their members were out sailing every weekend, if nothing else just changing room space, but for inland clubs at least space on the water too. |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 8:55am
Perhaps join these people instead ? http://www.mengeham.org.uk/ - Mengeham Personally irritated with water companies waste of water. |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 9:27am
we decided to join royal southampton and royal southern instead and look for a dinghy club in the new year, mengenam dont really sail skiffs ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 10:05am
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- crap courses loaded with fetches and tight reaches
- knee wrecking sh*tboxes - selling outdated, knackered and uncompetitive hunks of junk onto unwitting newbies in the name of 'fleet promotion'... it's what leads to all the unused boats lying around dinghy park.... just think, what if those people had bought a more suitable boat for their needs, sh*t, maybe one that's had some 21st century thinking about it to make it more user friendly, minimised maintenance and was actually a bit more ergonomic?.... Rooster Project X please. |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 10:59am
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People who bitch about sailing, bitch about classes they dont sail and extoll the virtues of boats that are simply out of reach of new sailors/mere mortals instead of encouraging them them to just get out there and enjoy the thrill of being on the water.
Most new people just want to get on the water, if they have unrealisitc expectations regarding racing and get disillusioned then perhaps sailing is not for them.... ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 11:06am
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The most annoying about sailing is when I go around the last mark the wrong way in the lead and didn't notice......
------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 11:21am
Couldn't agree more, which is why I've personally changed my views on 'plastic fantastic' rotamould boats over the last few years, some of them are great entry level boats for doing exactly that- getting out there and enjoying it. Secondly if they do race them, then they are racing with a PY that's reflective of the age of the boat, rather than reflective of a 2012 incarnation of your 1980's sh*tter.... nothing more demoralising than buying into a local fleet to find you've been sold an uncompetitive pup! (This isn't a dig at the laser btw, an old Laser with a new, cheapo replica sail isn't far off the pace compared to more 'classic' one designs of differing age) That said if someone could offer a slightly more 'racy' vinylester specification dinghy in an affordable package, like the Rooster concept, then I think this would be great for sailing imo. |
Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 11:35am
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Having the steering device at the back and that stupid great wiggle stick thing keep digging in the side, getting tangled with the ropes hanging off the boom. Weight, everything in sailing is far too heavier than it need be. Bad Taste.. have a look at yourselves in a mirror just before you go on the water y'all should be locked up it's an assault on my eyes.. ------------- https://www.ease-distribution.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ease-distribution.com/ |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 1:12pm
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The fact that I consider it 'normal' for grown men and women to walk around in - what would otherwise be considered as - rubber and bondage gear.
The fact that as I live a 10 minute drive from the club, I will walk out to the car in the afformentioned rubber and bondage gear and wonder why people are looking at me funny as they drive past ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 1:17pm
Get on your push bike & cycle in your rubber wear if you're only 10 mins away.... You'll get some looks then!!!! ------------- Vareo 365 |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 23 Nov 11 at 1:48pm
Well said chaps. I absolutely agree with you.
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 12:29pm
| Road trailer puncture.... when it's raining, practically or completely dark and there's no where to pull over to kick the b*st*rd before trying to fix it |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 3:19pm
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My arms being too short to reach both the tiller extension and the boom to push it out on the run... just solved this by buying a new, longer tiller extension! So, nothing now annoys me in sailing... ...Yeah, right. The "new boats" section in Y&Y these days - rehashed press releases from companies trying to sell yachts that are still just a computer image. How about some independent research? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 3:27pm
oi, thats the boat im designing at the moment in this months one, and its not just a rehashed render, we have 2 boats in build and will be at london with it. ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 4:02pm
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So wouldn't it be a new boat once it is actually built and floats? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 4:22pm
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its a new boat when we have started all the work on it, which we had and the hull was moulded when the artical went to print, we used a render becasue it gives a more visual impact that a picture of the boat in the factory, see our website for more pics tho
------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:15pm
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Looking at the mag, are you the Southerly 420, rather than the Crabber 12 or (the one where the wording says "Wally, at you guessed, it 80 feet") the Wally Otto?
If so, at least your wording is actually informative, though I'd have preferred to see a picture of the boat in build, with a little about the process, rather than just marketing, but then I'm not the target market. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:18pm
Tell me about it.... I remember an east coast open - 20 miles gone, blowout on the trailer on theA12 - family of 5 in the car. Luckily managed to pull over straight away changed the wheel - in the rain , then on the way again - 150 miles to go spare used up. Bricking it. I always take two spares now with me. ------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:02pm
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I'm a designer at southerly
And pics of half built boats don't look as flashy a a good rendeR ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 6:43pm
now you see that could so easily be jeffers saying 'when I go round the first mark he wrong way and Nessa does notice....' and so does most of the fleet he's just been coaching..... mind, he was distracted by the ebauty of the megabyte.... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 28 Nov 11 at 4:49pm
Teach me not to read the course board carefully...I just went on what would have been the 'correct' way were it a normal race not a 'Nessa being lazy and wanting to read the sail numbers easily' course....
And yes the Megabyte was nice to sail, quite tweaky in some ways and would take quite a bit of fiddling to get it right and going fast but it definitely has potential! ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Chris415700
Date Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 10:12pm
Better answer - do them a favour and take their trolley out of the water (and 50 yards up the beach  ). |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 10:19pm
I appreciate that everytime i come back in and think how do i get from my boat to the trolley and back before my boat has a) drifted away or b) ripped all teh progrip of the wings when it capsizes on the beach!  ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 6:42am
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We have to move the trolleys or the tide comes in and covers them seen that a few times when people are too lazy to put them high enough up the beach or and even better one is while you were out sailing a group of DFLs (down from london) holiday makers have set up camp on the beach right on the slipway so you cant get the boat off the beach :) ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 9:53am
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The most annoying thing about sailing?
More a periodic irritation:
On the sea I would say beach fishermen. Why the hell do they park up next to a sailing club where it clearly states "Private road", where they know there will be folk sailing at weekends and then get stroppy when their lines get fouled.......We've even had them cast weights at us deliberately.
Fishing being a very solitary sport I suppose it attracts some folk who don't like other folk very much.
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Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 10:01am
because winding up sailors is more fun than murdering fish??? get the clampers in... that'll sort them out. ------------- |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 10:19am
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clamping is more or less impossible as the current government have heavily restricted it as part of "Ending the war on the on the motorist" (an entirely fictional war imagined by idiots). ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 10:45am
Mmmm......the Clampers, sounds contagious.
We don't mind families parking there in the summer, the roads wide enough and it's a very nice beach. Who knows, after watching the sailing they may decide to take up the sport.
We do have an ex Finn sailor who's a 6' 6" walking road block, he performs diplomatic duties regarding the fishermen......still bloody irritating when it happens though.
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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 10:57am
+1 I actually made the front page of our local paper once for calling for them all to be 'flogged to within an inch of their lives' after just such an incident. They ran a competition and actually staked out our slipway for one of their number, who then started casting weights at some of us that were sailing. There are five miles of free beach either way with parking right next to it for 2 of them, yet this turkey had decided this was his 'pitch' and we were not supposed to be there whilst he was fishing in his competition. No-one had mentioned it to us at the club. You've got me started now, fish murderers are the scourge of our beach they leave their detritus everywhere, hooks for us to stand on, broken beer bottles, empty lager cans, discarded paternosters and even human excrement if it's been an overnighter. Flogging actually is too lenient I've now come to realise.
------------- https://www.ease-distribution.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ease-distribution.com/ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 11:13am
human excrement
.....bloody hell that's appalling
Perhaps we need to use the cast off hooks and tackle
 Edited.
I realised I was being as antisocial as the fishermen.
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 11:28am
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Loch I used to sail on had a fishing boat hire place a couple of miles away on the opposite side, beyond the normal racing area. The information that hirers were supposed to get included instructions to stay the hell away from the sailing club environs and racing marks. In return, we had club rules to stay the hell away from boats with lines out.
Obviously it was quite common for them to be drifting through the start line at the start of race, or even to moor to a racing mark.
It was the probably-illegal fisherman on the shore (the fire lighting, beer can leaving types that probably didn't have permits) that really amused me, even they'd get upset if you sailed too close to their lines.
On Locy Tay I've oft seen boats with small cabins puttering along, lines out the back, only person on board apparently asleep.
Fishing: the pastime of the dammed. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 1:28pm
| Wow - I agree with GRF on something!!!! |
Posted By: Skiffybob
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 3:31pm
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Most annoying things, let me see....
When your crew ties the kite on upside-down.
Oh yes, and when he throws-up over your back on the way out to the startline after a big Saturday night at Prestwick YC. Nice. ------------- 12ft Skiff - Gordon Keeble and the Furry Fly-by AC - GBR271 - Whoosh B49 - Island Alchemy |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 7:53pm
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I've had my crew throw up in the bottom of the boat after a big night, but not over me. Don't half clog the bailers...
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 8:30pm
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That's just rude. If you're going to vom, at least do it over the side or transom
------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Max McCarthy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 8:42pm
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Having had a great start, to then realize the board with the sailing directions were there for something, and have to turn around, to go back to the start, and end up at the back of the fleet :)
------------- Vintage skol moth 3438 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 9:12pm
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I remember that weekend Bob, I bet FT doesn't though...
And the "gosh they're all launching very early: its not going to take long to sail out there" and then discovering that the half mile out to the start was mostly knee deep water and it was going to take that long... |
Posted By: Skiffybob
Date Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 9:20pm
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I thought you might remember it Jim. Quite a weekend.
4 people, 2 Cherubs, and all the kit, in 1 VW Golf (poor car).
------------- 12ft Skiff - Gordon Keeble and the Furry Fly-by AC - GBR271 - Whoosh B49 - Island Alchemy |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 10:20am
It's easier to wash it off a helmsman than off a spinnaker though! |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 12:35pm
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True- anyone vomitting in a spinnaker bag should be in deep, deep trouble. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 12:42pm
It would surprise the boat to leeward at the hoist though.... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 2:38pm
To be fair, he tried, but waves can be a bit tricky when still drunk. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 2:39pm
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Currently my most annoying thing in sailing - Varnishing. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 2:48pm
| GRFs got a cure for that. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 2:54pm
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I've been dreaming of matches...
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 3:18pm
steady!!!! take a minuite and remember what it will look like when it finished. wood boats are wonderful and worth the effort.  (posted by a man who will only own g.r.p boats, because i am lazy. )------------- |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 4:31pm
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 4:36pm
Very true. Wonder if that would breach a rule?  ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 7:55pm
I feel your pain. Having spent the winter in the garage having a bit of repair work done, I am now awaiting the warm weather to get the varnish on on my Graduate. Russ I like the way its your daughters Grad! |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 08 Mar 12 at 11:05pm
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Well it is her boat mate as she reminds me! I need to repaint it in the summer! It doesn't need doing but she wants it pink again, which funnily enough it was when Ian Foxwell owned her! Maybe we should meet up in the Summer Paul if both kids are still into it? Maybe a local regatta? ------------- |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 09 Mar 12 at 8:38am
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bear in mind that once the temperature warms up and the varnishing starts the most hated thing will become.......flies.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 09 Mar 12 at 11:31am
| The most hated thing for me must be pulling on soggy wetsuits/boots on day 2+ of an event. It doesn't matter that you're going to get soggy again in half an hour anyway. Oh and SAND!!! must have been the Devils work and has almost reached phobic proportions with me. |
Posted By: Max McCarthy
Date Posted: 09 Mar 12 at 11:43am
That must be annoying, the biggest event I have ever done was two days, and it makes you want to get two wetsuits just for the event, and what makes it worse is that it happens to be the only time I have sailed off a beach! ------------- Vintage skol moth 3438 |