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Topic: Catamaran Trailer Manufacture

Posted By: johnnyt
Subject: Catamaran Trailer Manufacture
Date Posted: 30 Oct 11 at 6:43pm

Can anyone recommend a trailer manufacture who will be interested enough to build a custom designed cat trailer. I have tried three different manufactures in Shropshire but unless it is a square box or to carry sheep they are not interest. When then find out is for a boat the price doubles.

I can travel within reason and have plans to work to I am just looking for someone who is prepared to take a project on.

Any help would be appreciated

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John Tuckwell
Development Executive
GJW Insurance
www.gjwdirect.co.uk
Insurance rebel without a clause.

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Posted By: Teamvmg
Date Posted: 30 Oct 11 at 8:07pm

Ambrow trailers in Christchurch are pretty good. They don't mind building from a plan.

Andy sails an F18 too.

Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 30 Oct 11 at 8:11pm

Mayday chandlery just out side Reading engineer custom trailers.

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Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 31 Oct 11 at 8:57am

Bear in mind that if someone is making you a custom trailer (a new design) as of Saturday just been then it will need an IVA test at your local VOSA centre (or UK or European type approval) before it can go on the road.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/trailers.asp - http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/trailers.asp

Unbraked boat trailers up to 750kg are class O1.

If i remember rightly the main things:

-Lighting, there is more of it (needs 11 pin electrics).

-Rear under run bar

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Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 31 Oct 11 at 9:00am

I should say, reading it again, that the rules apply for New, complete vehicles from October last year.

Even existing designs need approval in time for October next year.

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Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 31 Oct 11 at 9:17am

Thanks Simon for the info and I was aware that new trailers needed a test certificate.

Thanks for the other suggestions so far and will make contact but if there are any otehr recomendations then please keep them coming.

Thaks again for the feed back

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John Tuckwell
Development Executive
GJW Insurance
www.gjwdirect.co.uk
Insurance rebel without a clause.

Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 31 Oct 11 at 7:31pm

Originally posted by Neptune

Mayday chandlery just out side Reading engineer custom trailers.

Thanks for this. I'm looking for a local person to modify an existing trailer for me and this could fit the bill.

Cheers.

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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 02 Nov 11 at 7:57pm

how can they tell when a trailer was "made"?

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Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 02 Nov 11 at 8:23pm

Like a lot of stuff it relies on human nature but they all need to have a data plate on with load rating and year of manufacture to be road legal. As you allude to, you can just argue that it is older than it really is but...

I had a 1988 motorcycle trailer with a data plate, I think VOSA would generally need it as evidence of weight loading to see if you are road legal relative to the car you use.

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Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 02 Nov 11 at 9:48pm

Simon think you are on about Reg 100 plate...ie the VIN and engine number...the only legal info that is required on a domestic car...the weights you see are not legal requirements but are treated as recommendations...hence why Land Rovers never put them on...thus was always hard to prove a Landie was over MAM

Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 9:28am

Sorry, specifically talking about the "statutory plates" which is now a specific requirement on new trailers under type approval regs, the information contained on it and the way it is made and mounted are all controlled on new designed trailers (Class O1 trailers must carry year information which is up to 750kg unbraked)

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/127_IVA_O1O4_Inspection_Manual_0311.pdf - http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/127_IVA_O1O4_Inspection_Manual_0311.pdf

Section 18 in here. We make road transportable equipment for utility companies and are having to go through all our existing designs in time for next year to make sure we comply and all our kit will have to go the VOSA guys to have an IVA test carried out before we can sell it.

Also, these days EU rules specify that cars have to carry information on "technically admissible unladen masses" on their "statutory plates" too.

We got picked up a while back by the Vehicle inspectorate for towing a larger, unloaded trailer on a Nissan Navara (which can tow over 2.5 tonnes). If you exceed 3.5 tonnes all up then you need a tachometer for most commercial use. The actual weight on a weighbridge would have been less than 3.5 tonnes as the trailer was unladen but because all they effectively do is add up the maximum weight of the car and the maximum possible weight of the trailer when fully loaded (taken from the data plate on the trailer) then the Gross Train Weight of everything exceeded the tacho limit.

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Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 3:05pm

yes up until last year CnU (construction and use) regs meant that trailers werent required to have any plating apart from a unique ID number...which could be welded onto the trailer. With the EU harmonisation palques now have to display a unique number and MAM

I know the case that meant tachos...and for your info its for ANY commercial use...ie a sailmaker towing a trailer to an open could (will) be considered commercial use. Also IF you need a tacho these days you also need to make sure that you have a photo DL as you will need a digicard and also do CPC training.

When you say a while back how long are we speaking? I only ask as until 2009 those plaques were guidellines only and IF the Train Weight ie veicle and Trailer were under 3500kgs then NFA should have been taken

Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 3:53pm

It would have been 2009, yes.

We now use an exemption in the driving hours regs that says you can tow above 3500kgs without tachometer as long as it is for new trailers not yet in service or road testing after major maintenance or modification. Which we effectively do.

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Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 3:58pm

Lads lads lads

To parody life of Brian, all I wanted to know was a trailer manufacturer that anyone can recommend now we end up taking about Gross Train weights and Tachographs

Other then the original contributors can anyone recommend a trailer manufacture who will build a trailer which will pass the VOSPA test????

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John Tuckwell
Development Executive
GJW Insurance
www.gjwdirect.co.uk
Insurance rebel without a clause.

Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 4:08pm

Warwick brothers and Indespension both should

And John tacho regs could affect you as you are 'in the business' and Im sure I can guess the stickers on the boat ;)