Tarpezing a dart 18
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Topic: Tarpezing a dart 18
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Subject: Tarpezing a dart 18
Date Posted: 04 Aug 11 at 9:49am
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I have never trapezed before so I'm looking for some tips on how to do it solo including the best way to wear the harness ie tight loose etc. Also how do you know when it's not windy enough to use the trapeze?
Cheers Owen |
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 04 Aug 11 at 11:02am
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Might be worthwhile finding someone with a bit of experience to go out with you and show you the basics of trapezing before flying solo rather than relying on interent advice. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 04 Aug 11 at 11:26am
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Fair comment always best to see how its done, but some basics...
The harness should be tight, and personal assets carefully located where they won't be crushed. You should keep your front leg straight and rear leg bent with your front leg pointing at the mast. Initially it will probably pay to brace your foot against the shroud. Start by placing front foot against shroud, leaving rear leg dragging across boat. Straighten front leg, keeping at an angle so the leg is pointing at the mast, so not at a right angle to the hull. When rear foot can be lifted onto gunwhale do so. |
Posted By: mrzen
Date Posted: 04 Aug 11 at 11:33am
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Always double check you are properly hooked in before launching out... It is easy to come out or not hook in properly.This is especially important if you are sailing solo.
I am sure we have all done it! ------------- Hobie Tiger Hayling Ferry Sailing Club |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 04 Aug 11 at 8:05pm
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Cheers guys.
The harness I have is a old hook type that has the rubber bit at the hook to stop it unclipping. Looking on the Internet some people seem to recommend removing it due to the chance of getting the hook caught on some thing. Is this less likley to happen with the dart? |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 05 Aug 11 at 7:54am
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Removing the rubber spike is more of a speed of use thing. On a cat you'll have more time so try it before you decide to cut it off, you may like the security it gives you. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: mrzen
Date Posted: 05 Aug 11 at 8:06am
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I'd leave the spike - if you are in and out a lot in mixed conditions it should prevent the ring from falling off the hook and also helps you feel that the ring is on the hook when you are not looking. Be careful though, if you are sailing solo on the coast, your boat can end up out of swimming distance from you if you fall off - even if it does capsize the wind can catch the tramp and push it faster than you can swim. For this reason - ALWAYS take a phone out with you, it won't be the first time the RNLI have re-introduced a cat sailor to his craft... (a member of my sailing club has done it twice in the past couple of years and has paid handsomely each time with crates of beers for the crews!). As long as you do this it's perfectly safe ;-) Matt ------------- Hobie Tiger Hayling Ferry Sailing Club |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 09 Aug 11 at 4:15pm
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And once you are hooked on and out, commit all yr weight to the hook. Holding onto the handle may make you feel safer but in reality you're just more likely to unweight and bounce out of the ring. For your first go, lock the adjustment lines. Slipping lines do nothing to improve confidence. Dont try to grip the deck with yr toes. Your "floor" is now the side hull. Flat-foot against that. Once you feel more comfortable, start moving fore and aft to see how if affects trim. You'll need a longer tiller extension to solo a D18. And JimC is right. Trapezeing is now the only situation where a tight pair of speedos is recommended. Keeps everything out of harms way. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: Mister Nick
Date Posted: 09 Aug 11 at 5:08pm
| I went out on a Tornado Catamaran last year, and the way I was told to trapeze off of it was to hook on, slide backwards off of the hull and then push yourself out once the ring was taking your whole weight. It took a few goes for me but it seemed to work well. You should use the side of the hull to put your feet on, don't try and put them on the deck normally. Make sure the harness is tight enough to stop the hook moving about too much, but not so tight it squashes your gonads. You'll know when it's not windy enough to trapeze when you don't have to go out on the wire to keep the boat from heeling over too much, although you won't get pitched in and have to boat capsize on top of you if you misjudge this, catamarans are very stable. |
Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 09 Aug 11 at 5:51pm
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Firstly you need a longer tiller extension. Either buy one or I have made use of a long plastic bar duck taped to extend my standard extension - worked for a while! Trapezing of the dart is one of the easiest boats I have done it off. Nice and stable and you can take your time. It also feels immense due to the width and the height you get as the hull lifts. Just clip on and slide your backside over the edge keeping the weight down on the hook. Then use your legs to push out. I think I go front leg first, but it could be different every time - its comes naturally after a while and you won't be thinking about it. It might be worth having a crew on board to help out the first few times. That way they can pull you back on if you slip off etc. ------------- |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 10 Aug 11 at 7:31am
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Thanks for the advice. Im hoping to give it a go at he weekend if i can make my self a temperay longer extension.
It is odd trying to get used to the hull lifting having come from dinghys where you tried to keep them flat.
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Posted By: VikiHC
Date Posted: 15 Aug 11 at 8:37am
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Having been trapped on a "turtling Hurricane" I would take the rubber off. Also I always now wear my harness over my lifejacket.
I know it was a freak accident but it was only a very observant rescue boat that stopped the incident becoming a possible tragedy.
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Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 19 Aug 11 at 9:17am
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Find your local aluminium stockist and buy a 2.4m length of 6082 tube, it may not be class legal but it worked for me. I think it was 3/4" OD x 16 gauge but you would have to confirm that on the class drawings first. Wrap some insulation tape around it at various points and put somethign on the end so you don't kebab yourself on it. ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 10:31am
| I finally got out on the trapeze last week and boy is it fun you can really feel the power of the boat. It was a little odd to be moving at a slightly different rate to the boat as it went through the waves. I didn't realize how much it would make my legs ache though. Im am now looking forward to improving over the summer |
Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 27 Mar 12 at 10:48am
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Glad you've finally got there. You cant beat the feeling of trapezing of a flying hull. You suddenly realise how bit a boat it is! At 6'2" I start feeling pretty high up! ------------- |
Posted By: SkiffGuy
Date Posted: 20 Sep 12 at 5:17pm
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Personally, When I push out, as a crew I hold onto the trap handle and when I am out there I grab the hook and clip onto the harness. This method I believe is a bit trickier, but I know it works ------------- Laser Vago XD 1369 |