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Structured Season

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Topic: Structured Season

Posted By: pondscum
Subject: Structured Season
Date Posted: 02 Jul 11 at 4:51pm

It always amazed me when there is an open for another class at my club and I therefore cannot sail that Sunday, there never appears to be an open nearby for me to go to. Similarly, when there is an open on nearby, I would miss out on club sailing (although the club gives average points for up to 2 such events)

I recall that in club rugby, the RFU has a structured season whereby weekends are given specific purposes - county cup/league etc. Could the RYA maybe come up with some such guidance - from having been on the club sailing committee, I know that deciding dates for events is a lot of a faff and changing around.

Just a thought.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Jul 11 at 7:42pm

Your club gives average points when you aren't there? Seems rather generous. I'll ask for some because I want a lie in next Sunday.

At high level, the RYA and ISAF do have the season sorted, but with so many classes at "Club" level I'm not sure how the RYA could possibly make sure there was an open meeting for each class sailed at a club to go to when the water is closed for an open. Better bet would be to lobby the club (or join the committee) and put the point that club racing can co-exist with all but the largest of Open Meetings, and can in fact enhance the visitors' experience as the club is a lively place, not an empty building. Average points could be given for those helping run the open...

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686

Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 05 Jul 11 at 9:25am

Where do you sail? Which weekend? What do you sail?

It does seem odd that there isnt at least some event you can attend...

Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 05 Jul 11 at 1:20pm

Originally posted by pondscum

It always amazed me when there is an open for another class at my club and I therefore cannot sail that Sunday,

Don't be so selfish, get involved and help run the open. There are too many members not helping to run events. We always have the same faces running the events at our club.

Sorry winge over.

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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764

Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 05 Jul 11 at 4:00pm

Originally posted by pondscum

It always amazed me when there is an open for another class at my club and I therefore cannot sail that Sunday

It's God's way to tell you that the grass needs mowing.

Posted By: pondscum
Date Posted: 05 Jul 11 at 9:58pm

Originally posted by Contender443

Originally posted by pondscum

It always amazed me when there is an open for another class at my club and I therefore cannot sail that Sunday,

Don't be so selfish, get involved and help run the open. There are too many members not helping to run events. We always have the same faces running the events at our club.

Sorry winge over.

We have a rota where one class organises opens for another ... done my time and will continue to do so. Still leaves several opens a year

Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 05 Jul 11 at 10:20pm

Originally posted by pondscum

I would think many tidal venues are more likely to set their calendars around tide tables.

Also have to think of the various dinghy classes and their open meeting calendars.

Many clubs / venues have well established open events which are held at the same time of year.

No I don't think the national body would want to get into those realms.

Different at international level though after all, who would sail a major international Laser/470/Finn/49er championship if it clashed with the Olympics?

Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 06 Jul 11 at 8:44pm

For those who sail more than one class or classic events as well as class events there would be everything on one weekend if pondscum had his way.

So he could get another boat in a different class and do both circuits! Or go away to a pay-and-play venue where you can always sail, such as Roadford Lake with onsite camping or Queen Mary or go to another club as a guest or go to the coast....

There's always loads of options - stop whinging!

Posted By: Jon711
Date Posted: 07 Jul 11 at 12:04am

All the events on the Norfolk Broads are coordinated by the Norfolk & Suffolk Yachting Assoc. This works and there seem to be very few conflicts, however, if you sail multiple classes you can, on occasions, still get a clash. However, Broads clubs are pretty laid back, so, if you had no sailing at your club on that day, generally, another club, would let you join in!!

Jon

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 07 Jul 11 at 9:08am

The Broads do seem to have a good thing going, done a little differently to the rest of the world!

The Cotswold Water Park could learn a thing or 2, except we can't sail betwen venues!

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686

Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 07 Jul 11 at 12:54pm

Sure, it makes sense if a number of clubs in a local vicinity, or sharing a common venue, should co-operate to ensure there is minimal conflict with events.