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Topic: Laser radial
Posted By: doeywizard
Subject: Laser radial
Date Posted: 26 Apr 11 at 5:05pm
Ok, I went out this weekend for the first time in my laser radial, it was prety awful wind (light and shifty). I dident do two bad (for a first time) and got two 3rd's in club racing. I was just wandering if any one on hear had any tips that they could give me to hopefully get to simalar standard I was in my topper.
Thanks  



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Posted By: Foiling_Toff
Date Posted: 26 Apr 11 at 9:58pm
I could probably write a long list of things not to do, but I'll leave it to someone else to give some constructive tips.


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 11 at 8:44am
Get out and practise is the best advice.

If you need to go to a few class training events/open meetings meet a few people and ask them for advice when you are in for lunch/tea


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Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 10:23am
thanks for your useful advice, I will try and get my self to a few open trainings once my exams are finished! 


Posted By: Foiling_Toff
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 3:49pm

An easy thing that will prevent losing places in the windier stuff, is learn to gybe without getting the sheet caught on the back corner.  It's not difficult, just a little practice required.

If you are looking to take things seriously then fitness is worth serious consideration.  I never weighted more than about 62KG when I had mine, and upwind in anything over F3 was really hard work.  Doesn't matter how fast you are downwind if everyone else is on the horizon when you reach the windward mark.



Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 5:43pm
what type of exercise would you recommend? 
currently I am trying to get out on my bike every day (mostly because it is a fun form of exercise), I am also doing as much weights and stuff as I can at school during PE and lunch.


Posted By: Foiling_Toff
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 6:21pm
I'm probably not the best to advise on a fitness regime as I was always a bit too lazy to do a lot of training.  It probably prevented me getting the best out of the radial.  I'd imagine that the cycling is good and probably some work on the core muscles.  Sit-ups should be a good bet.  Endurance rather then strength.


Posted By: Hughph
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 7:06pm
My fitness program consist of alot of work on ergometers (rowing machines) and if you want I can give you some more detail pm...     However I also have a gym based program that I use- I'll get it out and post it later...

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Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 29 Apr 11 at 8:20pm
thanks :)


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 30 Apr 11 at 9:05pm
Build yourself a hiking bench in d n t

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Posted By: Hughph
Date Posted: 30 Apr 11 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by radixon

Build yourself a hiking bench in d n t

That would be a good idea but it is pretty singular...  You'd ideally want a bigger range of excercise in order to not overly build one muscle group to the detriment of others? 


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Posted By: Hughph
Date Posted: 30 Apr 11 at 9:47pm
Anyway, here is my workout I use for the Radial over winter when I'm not rowing. Though it would work all year round I have a rowing fitness program over summer  
 

Here is the gym program- 

 Workout 1   Exercise                        Sets     Reps    Weight
 A1               Poliquin Step up              3       15-20             
 A2               Back Extension                3       12-15                     

 B1               Pull Up (Towel)                 3        Max       
 B2               Incline Dumbell Press       3       12-15    10kgs*    (in each hand)                                     
 C1                Wall Sit                            3        Max       
 C2                Plank                               3        Max            

 Workout 2   Exercise                            Sets  Reps     Weight 
 A1               DB Squat Heels Up              3      10-12    6kgs*        ( in each hand)
 A2               Split Squat Front Foot Up    3      10-12                    
 
 B1               Inverted Row + Hold           3       10-12            
 B2               Cable Pull (Rope)                 3       10-12   22kgs                                        

 C1               Side Plank                            3       60seconds             
 C2               Plate Pinch                           3       Max      5-10kgs  

How to use

The 2 workouts are not for the same session- E.G You would do workout 1 on one day and then workout 2 the next- it is to balance things up a bit. I tended to do these in two day chunks with a rest day in-between each.

The exercises are done in categories so you would have a 3min break between A,B,C 
In one set you do the number of reps it says and have a 30sec break in-between sets

If you find it hard- and I definitely did- it helps to have a rest week ocassionally- maybe if your doing a lot of time on the water or before a big event. I tried to taper down to big events.

* V Important- Do only the weights you can manage- don't hurt yourself but don't make it easy either. You can gradually move to heavier weights as your strength builds.  

Enjoy, 
Piers HS

EDIT- Forgot to add- If you don't know the name of the exercise google it- I did....   
 
Credit for the program to http://www.ocfitness.co.uk/ - OC Fitness . ( I am a student at the college so he wrote it up pro-bono...)


        


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Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 03 May 11 at 10:57pm
If you join the UKLA you get a DVD which has all the basic sailing techniques you need to know....

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