Underhand tactics
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Topic: Underhand tactics
Posted By: lozza
Subject: Underhand tactics
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 3:31pm
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Whilst everyone would like to believe that all sailors are all rule abiding for the entire race, there comes a time in every sailor’s career when they feel the need to go beyond the rules to get some kind of advantage. What tricks have you done or seen done that have impressed you without the committee or jury noticing or taking action? I have to admit that I often find myself deliberately letting go of the tiller just before the start to give the impression of not being in total control of the boat! It’s amazing how much room you get to windward at the start line! The most audacious move that I have seen is that a boat capsized just before a gybe mark, drifted downwind a bit and headed off to the leeward mark without rounding the gybe mark. They got away with it too, lucky The idea of this thread is to give us all light amusement (instead of position of the fortnight, try manoeuvre of the week), but also give us something to look out for people doing on the racecourse… ------------- Life's a reach, then you gybe |
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 5:09pm
I dont know about ones that people have got away with but I can give masses on the most stupid time/place to try an underhand tactic. ie finnish line for a port and starboard incident and not doing turns doh------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 6:30pm
| I'm sure I've had a spinnaker sheet or the spinnaker itself touch a mark and I've ignored it - I'm sorry to say. But here's a tip, at a distance its not too clear if somebody has touched a mark or not, since the bow wave often just pushes a small mark slightly out of line without contact. However if there has been contact the mark will rotate slightly. |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 7:03pm
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I understand the thread was mean to be light amusement but I simply cannot agree with:
Whilst everyone would like to believe that all sailors are all rule abiding for the entire race, there comes a time in every sailor’s career when they feel the need to go beyond the rules to get some kind of advantage.
If you win by cheating then what is the point? Now obviously there are some grey areas. For example how much room is required? Roll to promote steering or just to propel the boat? BUT People who would miss out marks on purpose etc. should be banned from the sport. I simply can not understand how anyone could do this! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 7:31pm
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Yeh i agree with what you have said there jon, however for the purpose
of this thread maybe we should put in stories about things we have seen
other people do, if even just for the sheer amasement that anyone could
be stupid/cheap enough to try it!! Theres always those few that will try to get away with things that they know are wrong, maybe here we should voice things we have SEEN solely purposely for a laugh! By the way did you know that in the 18ft skiff class are allowed to hit their tillers against the mark, not suprising really with 4m+ long tillers!! Ours on the 14 are 2m exactly and that seems stupidly long! ------------- Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices! Int 14 Gbr 1244 'Nucking Futs' The New Port rule!!. |
Posted By: ianwat2212
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 8:07pm
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When I sailed toppers I met some1 who trailed his mainsheet out the back of the boat when goin upwind on starboard in the hope that some1 whould hit it & thus have 2 do turns, I dont recall it ever working tho. ------------- Fireball RSA 14723 Simonis 35 "Scarlet Sun" SA 1500 Royal Cape Yacht Club |
Posted By: squeek
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 8:30pm
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at 29er nats my big sis looped her kite sheet round one of the
leeward gates, dragged it so it was dead downwind of the other leward
gate. along comes me wondering whats up with the gate marks( not knowing its my bl**dy sisters doing  ), can't tell which way your menna go through, go through wrong way and so dont get a finish!!however i did get a spot prize 4 the incident!! according 2 big sis this was all apparently unintentional....hum i wonder  |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 8:52pm
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someone stole the bung out of the back of my laser when it was mored up on a pontoon one day, i didn't realise till after the race, still beat the guy that did it tho . I always check my bungs now. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 08 Jun 05 at 9:59pm
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got barged off a finish line at this years nationals by the class chairman ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 12:19am
| New to the club and rounding the leeward mark on the inside in my Laser. Sheeted in and pulled the Commodore out of his Wayfarer by the neck - that'll teach him not to get too close at the leeward mark! |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Jun 05 at 3:20pm
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Somebody layed the marks badly at our club and rope was trailing for a few metres to the side. Not noticing, we rounded the mark perfectly only to get caught on it for a few minutes. Guess what happened on the next lap...... Still able to beat a few other boats which didn't have this problem. Can't blame anyone for those tactics but if you ever find yourself on RO duty bear it in mind to mess up your competetion's results. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: chucktheskiffie
Date Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 7:11am
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I can't say mine, cause it was thrown out in the protest!! lets just say the guy put me in a position on the starting line that he shouldn't have put me in... lets also just say he had to retire after the start... ------------- |