Y&Y.com Calendar
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Topic: Y&Y.com Calendar
Posted By: canon
Subject: Y&Y.com Calendar
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 9:32am
I used to look at the calendar and see whats on but now the format has changed, am I looking in the wrong place
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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 10:08am
| Hi, what is your question please? If you cannot find it at all then please see CALENDAR from the main menu bar across the top of every page. Or is there something else making things difficult for you? |
Posted By: canon
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 10:39am
| Of course I am looking at Calendar from the main menu bar, last year an actual calendar was visable. The question is has the format changed. |
Posted By: canon
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 10:53am
| It looks to me the format has changed I am sure it used to be an actual calendar which you could look at each month and actually see whats on each day either midweek or weekend. The current format is not as good. |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 11:04am
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Sorry - I couldn't understand what you meant by "the wrong place". I wasn't intending to be patronising!
To answer: Yes, one of the ways in which we used to display fixtures has not been reproduced in the new calendar. We no longer display a 'month view' since that was listing every event for every class of boat across the entire country, which really isn't very useful. The new calendar is optimised for searches agaist a particular class of boat, or club, enabling you to find suitable events much easier. We expected owners of Lasers in Devon to get annoyed scrolling through Etchells events on the Clyde, and so on. One important feature is the linking of classes to handicap events, so you can find all the possible races that your own boat qualifies for, not just fleet-racing. This option can be switched off. Obviously you might want to search for several different classes if you sail in several boats, and your geographical range may be quite high, but a 'month view' of all events would look extremely messy, believe me! I failed to find a pleasant and usable way to list the 82 events in our database for April (for example), especially when most occur on weekends, some overlap, and some clash yet are open to the same classes. Hopefully that explains why we think the class/club search will help you find a helpful list much faster. |
Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 12:04pm
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The good thing for me about the old system was because it showed ALL the events it was easy to separate the big handicap / interesting events/ dinghy weeks,where now without that ability it seems limited & makes the calendar less useful for ME & the way I used it to plan the years events.
"One important feature is the linking of classes to handicap events, so you can find all the possible races that your own boat qualifies for, not just fleet-racing. This option can be switched off". I assume that this feature only works if the class or event has linked class`s to the event.
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Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 12:11pm
It appears to be a job well done - cheers ------------- Phantom 1181 AC-227 IC 304 blaze / halo 586 |
Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 12:11pm
When you select a class it shows the entered details for that class there is a checkbox at the topwhich then includes "handicap" events you can apparently turn up to. There does seem to be rather a lot and I'm not sure I'm really invited to turn up to the QM Spring series! (Try the Wayfarer class calendar (1 event so far) to see what I mean. ------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 12:22pm
Yup, you are eligible for the QM events! They are 'open'; non-club-members can enter for a single day for a fee. I admit that there are a lot of similar club events that are filling up the lists somewhat. It is a shame the other Wayfarer fleet-racing events are not listed yet - I will try to pester the class secretary! Whilst it requires their effort to add events to the calendar (well, they can always email me a spreadsheet) we hope that the publicity they get in return is worth it for the class. |
Posted By: canon
Date Posted: 15 Feb 11 at 11:53pm
I used the old calendar to identify sailing events month by month (Not specific to class) scheduled in my area with a view to attending not for sailing but for sailing event photography !!! I am sure you can you understand how the old calendar worked for this purpose.
Mike Shaw
http://www.fotoboat.com - www.fotoboat.com
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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 16 Feb 11 at 11:01am
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Oh hi Mike! Forgotton your old password I take it?
There is a way for you to see every single calendar event, though it is not really advertised. You can try the 'feeds' we supply (usually restricted to one club or class). The particular links below will list everything: http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=XML - RSS feed http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=BARE - HTML simple list |
Posted By: canon
Date Posted: 17 Feb 11 at 10:57am
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Thanks, thats OK
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Posted By: wlyc
Date Posted: 24 Feb 11 at 9:32am
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Please can we have the old calendar back? It actually had a useful calendar you could easily look at. And it was so much more user friendly for clubs to edit the details of their open meetings. ------------- WLYC Webmaster |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 24 Feb 11 at 10:00am
| Hi John, I hope my earlier email has alleviated your concerns and explained why we do things the way we do. |
Posted By: wlyc
Date Posted: 24 Feb 11 at 10:37am
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Yes Mags, Your email responses have been very quick and clear. Unfortunately, the new calendar is just much harder for clubs to administer than the old one and we have less control over how our events are displayed to competitors. My vote is still to put the old calendar back. ------------- WLYC Webmaster |
Posted By: canon
Date Posted: 24 Feb 11 at 6:22pm
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I am sure the Y&Y Team changed the calendar for good reasons and good intentions but the fact is the old calendar as it was was much more user friendly, probably not a good idea to call it the old calendar because normally something which is new is normally better !!! as an option would it be really that difficult to have both.
Where there many negative comments regarding the calendar as it was which made someone decide to change it, I don`t remember seeing any threads about it. A good rule of thumb is if its not broke don`t try to fix it.
I am sure there will be many who will run in defence of the decision to change it but I just enjoyed the way it was.
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Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 24 Feb 11 at 7:49pm
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Well Canon for my stlye of use the "old" was better because it listed the entire months events in one go as entered in by the clubs or class`s rather then pick & chose for you.
So my vote goe`s to the "old" stlye of calender over the "new".
Thank you ------------- Phantom 1181 AC-227 IC 304 blaze / halo 586 |