If a Multihull comes back.......
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Topic: If a Multihull comes back.......
Posted By: a_dowley
Subject: If a Multihull comes back.......
Date Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 1:54pm
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Purely just out of interest......
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 3:47pm
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By "mixed" do you mean: A: force all teams to be 1M, 1F
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B: seperate M and F events?
It would be very unlikely that the IOC would allow it to come back as Open or even option A. There's supposedly pressure on the remaining open/mixed events at the Olympics (equestrian events and racket sports mixed doubles I think are what remains) due to political/cultural sensitivities with countries that are perhaps a little less forward on womens rights. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 4:02pm
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By mixed I mean force a team to have one male and one female. Open is what ever combination. ------------- https://www.sailingchandlery.com/rope-for-sale.html" rel="nofollow - Rope for sale https://www.sailingchandlery.com" rel="nofollow - Sailing Chandlery - Online Chandlery - Number 1 Rated |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 4:04pm
Oddly I'm suddenly seeing a complete change of emphasis on that subject: there are documents in the submissions for this years ISAF November conference which seem to be saying that the IOC is now in favour of mixed doubles events after strong opposition only a couple of years ago. This seems to be a recurring theme: IOC seems to be quite happy to give the sports markedly changed (and even rather contradictory) guidelines at quite short intervals. One of the things that most confused the debate on the multihull last time was people quoting out of date IOC guidelines, and I'm beginning to get the impression that changing guidelines is business as usual for the IOC. Must make things pretty difficult for the various sports administrations, and even more for egotistic self appointed on line pundits like me: seems I need to be finding and reading dozens of new documents every year in order to be up to date and not look like an idiot by quoting last year's news... |
Posted By: Brianoc
Date Posted: 01 Oct 10 at 2:10pm
| Open Helm/Crew, Open Class (F18 ??), Helm & Crew to change places for "x" races ;-) or OOD to decide which race is the Joker !! |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 01 Oct 10 at 3:09pm
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No idea what format they would come up with, but if Cats are going to make it into the games, they need to follow the example of the monohulls - they need something cutting edge. How about a Dart 18? Or if that is too radical, the Shearwater has been popular for just about long enough...
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Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 02 Oct 10 at 4:30pm
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Shearwater or Dart 18.... What's behind your thinking there?
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 02 Oct 10 at 6:18pm
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 02 Oct 10 at 11:08pm
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Posted By: Teamvmg
Date Posted: 06 Oct 10 at 2:28am
| Those classes are waaaay too popular! My money is on the Jumpahead or Thai MkV! |
Posted By: shadeux
Date Posted: 06 Oct 10 at 9:26am
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As a Shearwater weighs about the same as an aircraft carrier (Nimitz Class) additional athletic prowess (strength) is needed to move the thing round the boat park. Thus, the multhull's chances of a return to Olympic status could be enhanced by using the Shearwater combined with another Olympic discipline such as Greco-Roman Wrestling or the Hammer. No offense intended to Shearwater sailors - you're good fun. Bruce ------------- Bruce Shadow002 |
Posted By: BarnsieB14768
Date Posted: 19 Oct 10 at 1:13pm
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The reason for the none mixing of crews, is that certain religions do not allow formal mixing of the sexes unless related or married to each other. This is why, the IOC for one reason, is not keen to see mixed sex sports. However, the way to solve this is to make the Cat class open and leave the option to the individual national council. Countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, etc do not seem to have an issue with mixed sailing whereas, certain other countries would lock you up for the pleasure. Having sailed in some of these countries where it works and not sailed in ones where there is a strict doctrine, can understand the problems, which compound the issues of strength and size. The only female to realistically have a chance of winning a gold medal in an open class in modern times (1980 onwards), was Cathy Foster in the 470. Had things not gone wrong, probably something to with media attention and no grooming/protection from such intrusion, she and Pete Newlands may have forefilled their expectations in LA. Sailing now has to look beyond its sport and remove the voting issues of the last Council where ISAf found they had a problem. Olympic sailing should be about atheletes in their prime providing a spectacle that can be admired across the world. Finals should probably be short course racing and last no longer than 20 minutes, and in so doing give more teams the chance of excelling. Who remembers the 49er final in Quindoa. How many watch the stadium 10,000 m. compared to the 400 m. Changes need to be enhanced and not rejected to bring sailing to the masses. Weymouth is one that will be an opportunity missed. Lets not see another in Rio. As they say, bring it on and lets have a real spectical.  |
Posted By: Sprint Bob
Date Posted: 15 Nov 10 at 3:15pm
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Well done to all those involved who have potentially got the Cat's back into the Olympics.
Let's hope it sticks
 Cheers
Bob http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=154719 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=154719
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Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 15 Nov 10 at 5:45pm
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Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 26 Nov 10 at 8:31am
I've been told (by a fairly good source, i.e. a former Youth Worlds team member who trained with the squad) that the gold medallists in the 470 Women a few years back were regularly quicker than the gold medallists in the 470 Men. If true, it implies that women could certainly be competitive. Some big names in cat sailing has been working towards the mixed crew idea for some time, so some of the true experts certainly think it can work. It'll be damn cool to see the cat back in, and with some slightly lateral thinking. Now to get rid of the Finn! By the way, the evidence from the IOC's broadcast report is pretty clear - spectacular events generally don't rate as well as less spectacular events. White water kayaking, for example, attracts fewer viewers than flat water kayaking. BMX and MTB attract fewer viewers than road racing. Swimming attracts more viewers than just about anything. |