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Topic: Towing a roadbase ? Lighting board issues
Posted By: Webmuppet
Subject: Towing a roadbase ? Lighting board issues
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 9:05pm
Hi Folks,

Off to look at another boat at the weekend and knowing that the boat doesn't come with it's own trailer/roadbase we're hoping to strap its trolley onto a roadbase which we're borrowing for the day. Obviously once we're towing a boat it's fairly obvious where to fit the lighting board but on our outwards journey we'll just be towing the roadbase.........do we need to fit the lighting board to it ? ......and if so how on earth do we attach it ?

Any advice would be appreciated,

Nigel


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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 9:16pm
I have successfully tied a lighting board across the main axle on many occasions. Depending on the design you may be able to make it stand up, but worst case scenario just lay it flat and lash it on. You won't be able to read the numberplate very clearly but the lights will be visible which is the main thing.

Just remember the line... "oh it must have slipped officer, it was clearly showing the numberplate when I left..."

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Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 9:35pm

Morning Nigel

I have on the odd occasion traveled 40 or 50 miles with out a board on a road base with just a white bit of cloth tied to the back to mark the end of the trailier.

After all the other road users can see all your lights on the car & if they can`t - why are they driving?



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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 10:11pm
Technically, yes you do need a lighting board. It is possible to strap/tie/or even tape the board to a trailer.

Originally posted by Direct.gov - Hitched magazine


Lights and reflectors
All trailers must have side, brake, indicator and number-plate lights, while trailers over 1300mm wide also need rear fog lights.They must also have rear red triangular reflectors plus a pair of white front reflectors.


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 10:12pm
Yeah, same here, I routinely tow a road base with no lighting board, but obviously not after dark!

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 02 Sep 10 at 11:27pm
Even if you lay it flat the lights will be nicely visible and that's the main thing...


Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 1:56am

I have done this quite a few times. The trick is to pull the board towards the car both above and below the rear roller. My lights board has transom fittings and a mast support so I simply tie the lower pintle eye and mast support uptube back together towards the car. After that I use shockcord through the eyes already on the board to pull each corner back. Push an end through the eye, tie a bowline on the car side of the board. Then the tail goes over the back end of the board, undernearth the trailer beam, forward and round a different trailer beam and can be tied off at the loop created by the bowline. This allows you to get even tension and stop the lights board rotating around.

Hope this helps. Good luck with the boat.



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Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 10:25am
I used to use an old wooden pallet on my old trailer.  Strap it to the trailer and then attach the lighting board to the 'face' of the trailer.  It should give it enough to hold it up.

I've got about 200 pallets to get rid off on a construction site in east London.  Feel free to collect as many as you want


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Posted By: Barty
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 1:03pm

From the old chestnut, the The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 Schedule 1

TABLE VI
Trailer drawn by a motor vehicle

(1) (2) (3)
Type of lamp, reflector or rear marking Schedule in which relevant installation and performance requirements are specified Exceptions
Front position lamp Schedule 2: Part I

    A trailer with an overall width not exceeding 1600 mm;


    A trailer manufactured before 1st October 1985 the overall length of which, excluding any drawbar and any fitting for its attachment, does not exceed 2300 mm;


    A trailer constructed or adapted for the carriage and launching of a boat.
Direction indicator Schedule 7: Part I

    A trailer manufactured before 1st September 1965;


    An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer in either case manufactured before 1st October 1990.
Side marker lamp Schedule 9: Part I

    A trailer the overall length of which, excluding any drawbar and any fitting for its attachment, does not exceed-

      (a)  6 m,

      (b)  9.15 m in the case of a trailer manufactured before 1st October 1990;



    An incomplete trailer proceeding to a works for completion or to a place where it is to be stored or displayed for sale;


    An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer;


    A caravan;


    A trailer constructed or adapted for the carriage and launching of a boat;


    A trailer in respect of which the following conditions are satisfied-

      (a)  there is fitted to the trailer all the lighting and light-signalling devices listed in items 1.5.7 to 1.5.20 of Annex I of Community Directive 76/756/EEC, as amended, which are required to be fitted under that Annex; and

      (b)  all those devices are so installed and maintained that they comply with the requirements set out in items 3 and 4 of that Annex.

Rear position lamp Schedule 10: Part I None.
Rear fog lamp Schedule 11: Part I

    A trailer manufactured before 1st April 1980;


    A trailer the overall width of which does not exceed 1300 mm;


    An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer.
Stop lamp Schedule 12: Part I An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer.
End-outline marker lamp Schedule 13: Part I

    A trailer having an overall width not exceeding 2100 mm;


    An incomplete trailer proceeding to a works for completion or to a place where it is to be stored or displayed for sale;


    An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer;


    A trailer manufactured before 1st October 1990.
Rear registration plate lamp Schedule 15 A trailer not required to be fitted with a rear registration plate.
Side retro reflector Schedule 17: Part I

    A trailer the overall length of which, excluding any drawbar, does not exceed 5 m;


    An incomplete trailer proceeding to a works for completion or to a place where it is to be stored or displayed for sale;


    Engineering plant;


    A trailer primarily constructed for moving excavated material and which is being used by virtue of an Order under section 44 of the Act.
Front retro reflector Schedule 21: Part I

    A trailer manufactured before 1st October 1990;


    An agricultural vehicle or a works trailer.
Rear retro reflector Schedule 18: Part I None.
Rear marking Schedule 19: Part I

    A trailer manufactured before 1st August 1982 the unladen weight of which does not exceed 1020 kg;


    A trailer the maximum gross weight of which does not exceed 3500 kg;


    An incomplete trailer proceeding to a works for completion or to a place where it is to be stored or displayed for sale;


    An agricultural vehicle, a works trailer or engineering plant;


    A trailer drawn by a bus;


    A home forces' vehicle;


    A trailer constructed or adapted for-

      (a)  fire fighting or fire salvage;

      (b)  servicing or controlling aircraft;

      (c)  heating and dispensing tar or other material for the construction or maintenance of roads;

      (d)  carrying asphalt or macadam, in each case being mixing or drying plant; or

      (e)  transporting two or more vehicles or vehicle bodies or two or more boats.



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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 6:51pm
Hi Everyone,

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.........I did manage to attach the lighting board to the road base - a combination of:
  • One tie-down
  • A couple of elastic/hook thingies
  • Some duct tape
.....and it all stayed in place - I'm now guaranteed that I'll not see a single copper on my journey LOL,

Cheers,

Nigel


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I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg)

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 8:00pm
Ah, duct tape - the solution to everything! 


Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 03 Sep 10 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Mark Jardine

Ah, duct tape - the solution to everything! 


And if we're talking lightboards then don't forget the torch and Mr Kipling 6x apple pie trays for a perfect 'rear-light' in the event of failure.

Nowadays however the trays seem to be green


Posted By: ColPrice2002
Date Posted: 05 Sep 10 at 4:09pm

Just a little late to be helpful to the OP  ...

I use a couple of "G" clamps. They clamp to the cross member (vertically) and the pins on the end of the screws fit into holes on the lighting board.

Still needs tying/bungee to stop it falling backwards, but weoks well.

They're also useful in fixing a non-standard trolley to the base.

Colin




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