AC34 Protocol released today
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Forum Name: America's Cup
Forum Discription: Your thoughts on challenges to win the 'Auld Mug'
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Topic: AC34 Protocol released today
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Subject: AC34 Protocol released today
Date Posted: 31 Aug 10 at 11:28am
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I wonder what it will say, or more specifically how it will dress up Oracle doing what EVERY defender in AC history has done, and stack the deck in their favour. That said, its part of what makes winning the cup all the more special, winning a game against a stacked pack. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 31 Aug 10 at 11:59am
Not sure the Australians did, which probably explains why they are the only country not to have managed a successful defence... |
Posted By: Laser 173312
Date Posted: 01 Sep 10 at 1:30pm
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The Hula concept on TNZs 2003 defenders wasn't exactly stacking the deck in their favour either. There is a press conference on 13th September to anounce the details. Live from Valencia @ 13:00 CET on the web.
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 13 Sep 10 at 7:36pm
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 10 at 7:58pm
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Posted By: MattK
Date Posted: 13 Sep 10 at 8:14pm
Boats that will allow sailing technology to be pushed resulting in speed, rather than immense forestay load and creaking boats 
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Posted By: sailorboy93
Date Posted: 13 Sep 10 at 8:43pm
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i suppose we shouldnt be suprised that oracle wants to use the design advantage they now have. it is gonna ruin the racing tho
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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 13 Sep 10 at 9:55pm
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It doesnt matter what they sail it in it will always be boring.
The whole point is that the AC is a technical battle. Its only the recent ACs that have turned it into proper match racing. I say go for it. |
Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 14 Sep 10 at 9:28am
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Looking forward to some amazing technical designs and stunning boats. Expecting an absolute snore-fest in terms of racing.
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Posted By: Laser 173312
Date Posted: 14 Sep 10 at 9:41am
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Very different reactions from ETNZ & Origin. Dalton says they're going for it. Simmer & Mills are thinking about it. I have a feeling Mills will pull the plug.
Hugh
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Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 15 Sep 10 at 12:17pm
Actually Dalton says they will go for it if they can raise the money, which isn't quite the same thing. I have a feeling Mills won't pull the plug but we'll see. |
Posted By: Juggs
Date Posted: 17 Sep 10 at 2:48pm
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This looks as if it will be prove to be a very expensive proposition to take part in. Syndicates can't use boats from the last round of the cup and will take big money to develop their race boats let alone the smaller training boats. And as for it being a 'World Series' it's obviously been set up by an American following their baseball idea of a world series that is only for America!
They should be interesting boats but how many will come to play? |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 23 Sep 10 at 11:49am
| As famine, disease, natural disasters (ironically flooding) and war ravage our planet and kills, maims or injures millions, I think we can all be "proud" of sailings' latest, highly publicised, attempt to redistribute wealth from the very, very, very wealthy to the slightly less very weathly in the creation of newer, even more exotic and fanciful (aka far-fetched) ways to get two boats around some inflatable marks with absolutely no expense spared.... I just hope the end result justifies the means, but I have a nagging suspicion it won't |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Sep 10 at 9:25pm
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Should the boats be built from Hemp fibres in Pakistan, then? At least the money does get redistributed (and not just to the slightly less wealthy - the moderately well off get a look in too) which it wouldn't do in a hedge fund. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 24 Sep 10 at 10:54am
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Rupert, for me the America's Cup interest is in the battles between sailing teams and their respective rock-stars, frankly I'd be happy if they sailed pretty basic boats that were all exactly the same and the focus was on the competitive sailing and rules, rather than the technology. However; a) I acknowledge that that view won't be shared by everyone, particurly those without a knowledge of racing and match-racing in particular and b) I appreciate also the history of the Auld Mug and it's rightful place in sailing as a melting pot for new thinking, technologies, build techniques and sailing techniques, so yes, some level of technology development and new design should be accomodated by the rule, as it was with the 12M's and to a fair extent the IACCs. I'm pretty sure that drag racing super-high-tech multihulls is too far away from the original premise of the cup and it's roots as a premium match-racing event. The last event was long on technology and short on racing interest. For me, the multihull direction get's the AC away from the 'logical progression' the IACC provided from the days of J's, to 12's, to IACCs (via the cat versus monster debacle). I've nothing against multi's, quite like them and would own one if I lived nearer to the coast (Nacra Infusion looks absolutely brilliant fun) but I'm not sure of their suitability for match racing on this stage. |
Posted By: Skiffman
Date Posted: 25 Sep 10 at 10:46pm
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new boats sound awesome especially the AC45. Going to me much better racing than the big 72's! Like the extreme 40s but not overbuilt and significantly faster. If they made the courses shorter that would reduce the emphasis on boatspeed and place it on boathandling/rules. At the end of the day traditional match racing needs to be done in slow boats, it simply is not the same is fast boats! You can match race a 49er and its great fun but all about boathandling and dial ups last all over 10 secs max before we are going backwards. ------------- 49er GBR5 http://www.teamfletcherandsign.co.uk - teamfletcherandsign.co.uk Team Fletcher and Sign campaign site |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 10 Oct 10 at 4:33pm
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the thing that keeps niggling at the back of my mind with this, is that it seems like all they have done is try to steal the AC to have one last crack at trying to resurrect the 'World Sailing League'. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: DavidV
Date Posted: 18 Oct 10 at 9:21am
| Its a crying shame that yet again there wont be a 'proper' Americas Cup. Match racing is a much more exciting format for the AC this is just drag racing - rubbish selfish deision |