Hopefully my last what boat thread..
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Topic: Hopefully my last what boat thread..
Posted By: sailor_420
Subject: Hopefully my last what boat thread..
Date Posted: 03 Feb 10 at 9:32pm
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Okay, well ive been completely out of sailing since september now and i would say that i only sailed a handful of times times the whole of 2009 due to the lake being closed for over half the year, exams etc.. Due to me being out so long the 420 was sold, so this leaves me wanting another 2 person boat! As ive said in the past the big aim is the 49er, but we need something that could build up our skill level enough to make us remotely competitive in one. I know the 29er is the obvious choice but is there any other options i should consider? Something basically quite quick and fun, we'd also be sailing it either at WKSC and maybe Leigh and Lowton too. Im 60kgs and my crew is 70kgs-ish (about 6'3 also) and we're both going on 18. Finally we would be looking to do some events etc, so something with a decent circuit and training! Thanks a lot guys, i promise you this will be my last! |
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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 7:23am
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What about a b14 i am they have one the best cicuits going and training seems to be top notch the only problem is i am not sure on the weight ranges.It could be a good way of getting used to high speed and balance. ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 8:22am
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B14 seems the obvious choice, no issue with twin trapeezing etc, they are keen to get people into the class especially youngsters and have heard are a friendly bunch. Other options are the I14, 505 470, all depends on what you want from a boat. ------------- |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 10:25am
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3000? There's at least one at Leigh & Lowton. ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: ham4sand
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 11:52am
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cherub ------------- John Hamilton cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this [FORSALE] |
Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 1:03pm
Well we all saw that coming from a mile off.... Besides considering a 29er, perhaps any of the other single trapeze double handed classes? Laser 4000's are going very cheap at the moment, and have an active racing fleet. The B14 has a very helpful and welcoming appeal (i can definately vouch for that, with the entire class association taking time out to try and set the spaghetti that is my mast!) and competitive racing with both the brand new ovi's and the older rondar boats. If you around this weekend and want to come up to rutland, i will be there with my B and a few of the others will be around to get you out for a test sail. ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 3:28pm
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If you are set on a 49er in the long run, and want to go the yoof squad route, then surely the 29er is the way to go. If you wanting a less formal education, then go borrow as many asymmetric boats as you can, from B14 & RS800 to RS500 and all points inbetween, and see which one tickles your fancy. 2 18 year old 6'+ ers are soon going to put on weight, though - you'll be in a Flying Dutchman before long... ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: ham4sand
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 7:01pm
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SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT ------------- John Hamilton cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this [FORSALE] |
Posted By: BenG
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 10:41pm
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Gotta be an 800.
Weight will be fine for it, great circuit, easier than a 49er and a lot more fun than a 29er. |
Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 05 Feb 10 at 11:47am
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Wot about a 29er XX? Twin Trapeze, dead easy tuning, goes like stink. Big sail power. You also get a linear drag ride, just like on big sister 49er. ------------- Pass the skiff, man! |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 05 Feb 10 at 1:08pm
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short visual comparison between 29er XX and UK Cherub; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKqYhdFqt8M - YOU TUBE LINK
------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 06 Feb 10 at 10:50am
Donīt go there - there be dragons!!!!!  ------------- Pass the skiff, man! |
Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 07 Feb 10 at 3:38pm
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If you want a 49er, why not get a 49er? ------------- Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it! |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Feb 10 at 8:18pm
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Give them another 40 years before a Dragon is the right boat! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 11 Feb 10 at 12:39pm
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Yeah, go for it! You can also meet the designer, Julian bethwaite at the Dinghy show 6-7th march on the Ovingtons stand. ------------- Pass the skiff, man! |
Posted By: RodB
Date Posted: 11 Feb 10 at 3:12pm
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I'd take a serious look at the B14
It'll give you all the relevant skiff training and experience without too much cost, and will be more suitable for the water you sail on. You can always move on up to the 49er later, taking the transferable skills with you.. Skiff sailing and racing should be a learning curve, and the boats are not just for blasting around in - that's what windsurfers are for... RodB ------------- ex B14 racing fanatic, now gone back to enjoying windsurfing |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 11 Feb 10 at 5:08pm
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Ronin, the national champ Cherub is up for sale for Ģ5500 and you may all mock but its a mighty fine, well setup boat that would put a considerable number of B14s into shame for being so tatty (I'm not suggesting B14s are tatty, merely pointing out how well sorted a good Cherub can be). (Pete you can send the cheque in the post for the plug!).
Only issue is you might have to fight the legendary Chris Bridges for it! |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 11 Feb 10 at 6:00pm
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If you aim is a 49er have you considered buying a good condition old boat, get your skills up then when you have the boathandling etc sorted getting a "race" boat?
------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Mister Nick
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 8:38pm
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Maybe a 29erXX or a B14? ------------- |
Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 19 Feb 10 at 2:02pm
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He said at start::: I'm 60kgs and my crew is 70kgs-ish (about 6'3 also) and we're both going on 18. Finally we would be looking to do some events etc, so something with a decent circuit and training! So they're a bit light for a 49er. Near perfect for a 29er though. Theres not much of a circuit for 49ers. But theres a much bigger 29er circuit (and better supported) Training is limited for 'beginner' 49ers. But theres lots of training for all levels of 29er sailors. And finally, the 29er fleet is full of teenagers with a smattering of older sailors - so the social aspect will be perfect for them. Lots of 29er sailors go on to get a 49er - having first had lots of fun in a fleet that suits them perfectly.
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Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 19 Feb 10 at 2:07pm
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Oh yeh, and the 29er fleet has something else that interests most 18yr old lads.
GIRLS !
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