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Grumpy's own thread ....... (again)

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Topic: Grumpy's own thread ....... (again)
Posted By: Phat Bouy
Subject: Grumpy's own thread ....... (again)
Date Posted: 04 Oct 09 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Phat Bouy



.And finally ........... we have a windsurfing instructor at our
club.......knows it all, can do it all, has done it all, will do it all, blah de
blah de blah ALL........ bores allWhat is it with these bloody whinge
surfers??


Lucky for you, you should listen to him, being by definition a dinghy
waller therefore in possession of only partial knowledge of all things
maritime yet convinced otherwise..

Maybe he's even got ten years of offshore powerboat racing experience
as well..

And knows that turning an out board motor (as dicated by the RYA
Powerboat safety course) off in any situation, never mind near a lee shore
and in attendance to a rescue situation is stupid since likely as not the
plugs get oiled on two strokes and on occasion can refuse to fire up
especially if a tad warm, or following periods of near idle use...



Dear, oh dear, grumpy old girl.

You imply that you and only you have any knowledge or experience of anything - but you already knew that.

I will not bore you of my maritime adventures in all the different aqautic avenues that comprises my experience, but I will tell you that this wonderful Windy Planker instructor, previously referred to, has admitted in one of his many drunken moments, that his instructor tickets where "given" to  him. He is a sailing SI - can't sail. He is a PBI - doesn't even have a clue as to what is on any of the syllabii for the different courses that he is qualified to teach.

Go on defend him now - come on, just try ..................... because he sounds just like you with his "fcuk you" attitude to everyone who dares to disagree with him. Do you have a son of about 30 going on 13 years of age by any chance??

Oh no, I think I will bore you for a change - I took up windsurfing at Kirton's Farm, near Reading  l  o  n  g  before I got involved in; dinghies, yatchs, jet skis, kite surfing, powerboats, swimming, canoeing, canoe polo, diving, (yawn) .................................


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Oct 09 at 11:47pm
Yet you still won't have prop guards in a world full of muppets instructed by
precisely the sort of dork you just described...

Muppets who the first instinct they employ when suddenly being confronted
with an object or person even, in the water in front of them, is to immediately
turn the steering wheel away, as if in a car, resulting in the rear of the boat
swinging out and carving into exactly that which they want to avoid.. for
instance..

I aint defending anything..

Except prop guards - for muppets..

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Posted By: Phat Bouy
Date Posted: 05 Oct 09 at 12:36am
You "aint defending anything" because you can't ..... this wonderfull self-aclaimed, self-professed, top gun windsurfing instructor, whom you clearly said that I should listen to as he is far more knowledgable and experienced than me, has now become a dork. For goodness sake, make you mind up man - what is it to be?

If you could remove your blinkers for a while, hard I know, but you would see I have put forward reasons when a prop-guard is a valid option. I also said: "Just pray that you get a good instructor and you will not know that until you get more experience."

So please do not tarnish the stoic people who man safety boats weekend in and weekend out as "muppets" when in reality it is their PB instructor who is the muppet. Any muppet PBI could spot if a pupil is not up to the standard and only a muppet PBI would issue an RYA certificate when it is patently not deserved.

My main statement goes along the lines of "So to be perfectly clear - there is no substitute for the proper and correct techniques for PB handling. Just pray that you get a good instructor and you will not know that until you get more experience. And that applies whether or not you have a prop-guard fitted."

I further go on to suggest: "Grafham Water have a good online Safety Boat guide with reminders of various techniques. Maybe the RYA would agree to a copy of their new DvD go be posted on club websites so that SB crews can swot up before their duty to remind themselves of some of the techniques and considerations before their epic adventures."

Further to this I added: "the RYA themselves do not recommend the fitting or use of prop-guards on safety/rescue boats."

So dear grumpy, old grumpy - instead of your normal bitching, how about doing something about it. Why not become a PBI yourself? But do make sure that you do it properly as I would hate to think of you as a dork!



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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 05 Oct 09 at 12:49pm
We're in danger of running two threads here on the same subject, so I'll
agree to think about being a PBI, maybe I'll use it as a topic in my next
anger management meeting and I'll vary the description of muppet to stoic
people, but I have seen stoic people in full RNLI get up turn into the wind
and flip their craft on the odd occasion so this stoicism isn't neceassarily the
perfect panacea we seek.

And I'm fairly sure that you wont have to travel too far in my locale to find
folk, crazy though it may sound, that actually think I'm a dork - can you
believe it - nah nor can I but sadly it's true..

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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 05 Oct 09 at 2:44pm
Put the handbags away ladies...............

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