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No more lives left for Olympic Cat

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Category: Multihulls
Forum Name: Dinghy multihulls
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Topic: No more lives left for Olympic Cat
Posted By: Guest
Subject: No more lives left for Olympic Cat
Date Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 5:21pm

 

Bad news ...

http://sailjuiceblog.com/2009/08/13/no-more-lives-left-for-olympic-cat/ - http://sailjuiceblog.com/2009/08/13/no-more-lives-left-for-o lympic-cat/

 




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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 8:46pm

Agreed.  Disaster for sailing representation at the games.

2016 might be interesting!  Plan for 2 cats in the ollies!



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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 11:39pm
Multis have a hard road back ...

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Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 8:30am
What a shame and on a personal note... what am I going to do for the next four years! (At least I did the Radial this year rather than sailing the Tornado hoping it was going to come back in...)

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 8:51am
I don't know.. After all multihulls isn't really sailing is it?

Makes a change for 'dumbing down' to be reversed.

Now they just need to get rid of that ludicrous Finn thing, bin the 470 and
bring the sport up to date.

Cats just encourage idiots on the water that shouldn't be there, a bit like Jet
Skis.. imv.

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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 9:09am
Perhaps this will cause a "root & branch" review of the Olympic classes for 2016 and we will see some state of the art craft on the water to represent the pinnacle of our sport rather than the relics we have now ...

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 10:53am
So the question would be.

What should replace the Finn? & 470.

The D1? or the MPS?

and the 470?

Shame the Alto hasn't got any legs under it class wise, it would make a good
single trap replacement and could be sailed in all conditions.

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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 11:02am

I dunno what classes we should have; the subject has rather been done to death but at least I'd like to see something modern that looks interesting to non-sailors to give our sport some profile; most of my non-sailing mates have no idea what a sailing boat looks like and their perception is of somthing like a GP14 ... when I show them a picture of the me sailing the Musto they think that looks great and even somthing they may find exciting to do ...

Just remember back to the interest in Boardmans Lotus bike created in the Barca' Olympics.

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

 



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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 11:23am

Dam,n good points guys, My non sailing mates think that i am a bit 'light on my feet sailing' and i should of stuck at playing football.  The olympic classes  (to the general public) dumb down our sport and do it no real favours.  Chris Boardmans bike is a decent example Rick.  I say replace the finn with the Musto, just to encourage some new blood in our sport if nothing else



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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 11:30am
Originally posted by Guest#260

Just remember back to the interest in Boardmans Lotus bike created in the Barca' Olympics.

But Rick, Boardman's bike is *exactly* like the current Finn - fundamantally antiquated design, radical development prohibited by the rules, yet said antiquated design optimised as far as possible by the latest technology...


Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 12:23pm

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Guest#260

Just remember back to the interest in Boardmans Lotus bike created in the Barca' Olympics.

But Rick, Boardman's bike is *exactly* like the current Finn - fundamantally antiquated design, radical development prohibited by the rules, yet said antiquated design optimised as far as possible by the latest technology...

Are you going to tell me that they should all be racing small wheel recumbents?

The Lotus bike looked nothing like a typical round tubed steel track bike ...



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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by Guest#260

Are you going to tell me that they should all be racing small wheel recumbents?


I'm not telling them what they should do at all, but from everything I understand something other than the 19th Century arrangement relationships between seat pedals and handlebars would be a lot higher performance...


Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 1:04pm

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Guest#260

Are you going to tell me that they should all be racing small wheel recumbents?


I'm not telling them what they should do at all, but from everything I understand something other than the 19th Century arrangement relationships between seat pedals and handlebars would be a lot higher performance...

Rubbish, no one could beat Hoy in a kilo on a recumbent, similarly a team of recumbants wouldn't beat a good team pursuit team over 4k, a pair of recumbents in a madison or a points race would be a disaster, the only place where a recumbent might outperform the current rule bikes would be a flat road timetrial.



Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 2:42pm

Originally posted by Guest#260

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

The Stars made the best TV of the last Olympics. And the boards made the dullest. Yeah, the wind had something to do with both but the closeness of the Star finishes was something else.

 



Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 3:00pm
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Guest#260

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

The Stars made the best TV of the last Olympics. And the boards made the dullest. Yeah, the wind had something to do with both but the closeness of the Star finishes was something else.

 

Are you serious?  Final race in the T's and 9ers was worth watching  Rest was not.



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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Guest#260

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

The Stars made the best TV of the last Olympics. And the boards made the dullest. Yeah, the wind had something to do with both but the closeness of the Star finishes was something else.

Only to sailing experts; to the general public the 49er medal race was the one to watch ....



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Guest#260

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

The Stars made the best TV of the last Olympics. And the boards made the dullest. Yeah, the wind had something to do with both but the closeness of the Star finishes was something else.

Only to sailing experts; to the general public the 49er medal race was the one to watch ....

I know nothing about horses but to me an exciting horse race is one with a neck-and-neck finish.



Posted By: Worthy
Date Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Guest#260

Sailing boats designed in 1911 can't be right ...

The Stars made the best TV of the last Olympics. And the boards made the dullest. Yeah, the wind had something to do with both but the closeness of the Star finishes was something else.

Only to sailing experts; to the general public the 49er medal race was the one to watch ....

I know nothing about horses but to me an exciting horse race is one with a neck-and-neck finish.



It's horses for courses (excuse the pun).  All the non-sailors I spoke to who watched the races much prefered the T bird and 49er races.


Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 20 Aug 09 at 4:00pm

Just check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iiD4tcKtY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4iiD4tcKtY

You don't get much quicker than that off the start line!

Well done to Leigh and Will for winning that race.

Andrew



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Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 20 Aug 09 at 5:00pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

agreed it was at least exciting Rick, but it also made it look a bit riduculous... anyway that's a different
can of worms, the olympics is a joke... throw out the tornado but they let in the
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/8196879.stm - bitch-slapping and Golf!

I hate golf and think its pointless to have it in the Olympics, but thinking of global participation it can probably claim a strong place.

I love boxing, but no nothing about women's boxing.  That said I also agree it should be in, as it gives fair representation across the whole of that sport.  Unlike sailing where there isn't fair representation of the whole of the sport.

Gutted about the T.



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Posted By: SoggyDoggie
Date Posted: 20 Aug 09 at 9:02pm

We've got equal representation around our necks. Everybody knows that some sports are primarily male-orientated. 

Horse racing is one example. Should we have a separate Grand National for women?

 

 



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