Over tops
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Over tops
Posted By: zailor
Subject: Over tops
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 6:10pm
I know 2 Polls in 2 Minuets But one led on from the other and I just found the Poll button so im having fun  Anyway the title says it all. Over top or not? |
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Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 6:29pm
| What is an overtop? |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 6:57pm
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rash vests to go over all your kit, worn especially if you're wearning a harness. Also worn as team tops, or some events hand them out and ask you to wear them (Tide Ride and Endeavour trophy, for example, and I think the 29erXX not-a-worlds recently seemed to have them). Some people love them for keeping everything tidy, some people are vehemently opposed to them as they think when they're trapped they'll be able to get their bouyancy aid and possibly harness off and such a top would slow this down. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: charlie1019
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 7:38pm
| I find a rash vest on top is good for stopping the tiller going through the BA arms/shoulder strap. Also good at stopping the boom or mainsheet blocks hooking on to the top of the BA mid tack. |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 03 Aug 09 at 7:41pm
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I use one for same reason as Charlie. Don't want long tiller going on inside of BA/harness. However, my crew does not because I have to haul him back on board after capsize (self-tacking jib draws and boat just sets off) so I need access to his straps to grab hold of. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 04 Aug 09 at 2:18pm
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Not wanting to make light of things here, but one of the other reasons I wear a rashy on the outside is that I wear a hat/cap between races to keep warm but take it off to race to gives me better awareness. The hat gets stuffed up the vest and stays there til it's needed. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 04 Aug 09 at 2:42pm
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I'll wear one on the outside of everything, BA included as a crew (there is more to catch on in the front of B14 through the corners) but helming, the BA goes outside ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 04 Aug 09 at 8:41pm
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I wear my bouyancy aid under a spray top. This has many great benefits, 1. reduces snags, 2. is both warmer and cooler, and 3. stops the buoyancy riding up when I'm in the water so that I can still see what I'm doing.
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Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 04 Aug 09 at 9:42pm
I've always had the BA on top of everything since it would be easier to haul me out of the water and I can ditch it very quickly if it becomes a factor in a entrapment where the buoyancy pushing me up is making the situation worse. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 11:30am
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I used to wear mine under, but hauling people out of the water when doing rescue boat was so much easier if a BA strap was available, I started putting the BA on top. Modern BAs tend not to catch as badly, anyway. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 12:32pm
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I wear a Rooster BA. It goes on over the head and off the same way. There is no zip or front/side fastening and I use the adjustable straps to ensure a tight fit on the water. So, in an entrapment situation I'm basically screwed if I need to get the thing of in a hurry - unless I can cut it away. This is not a rant against Rooster btw - other BAs have the same issues. While looking at the Rooster website, I came across http://www.roostersailing.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=1&Product_Code=RBIBRD&Category_Code=buoyancy&SortBy= - these race bibs and I wonder what people think about them. On the one hand they sould keep all your straps neatly tucked away and yet you still have some access to the BA straps to lift someone out of the water. Not sure it properly addresses the "tiller inside the BA scenario but it may be a compromise. Any experience? ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 12:44pm
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I wear my BA under a rashie or spray top, but my harness over the top of both. This means the BA is neatly out of the way but the harness straps are there for me to be hauled out by if need be. I could also, in theory, get my harness off if necessary. Whether in reality this would be possible if a situation called for it I don't know. As a last resort I could cut it I suppose. I think the purpose of the race bibs is for training/team racing/identifying leaders etc. I have stuck my tiller through my BA, but not through my harness. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 05 Aug 09 at 2:02pm
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I often wear a "bib" or "vest" over my BA as I find it
helps stop anything catching on the buckles on the side of my magic marine buoyancy aid, I prefer it to a full overtop as it has no restriction at all around the arms/shoulders and leaves me free to wear what I want under it. ------------- Neil 
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