Twin wire 505
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Topic: Twin wire 505
Posted By: jamesint505
Subject: Twin wire 505
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 7:16pm
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Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 7:19pm
| Worth trying. Do you know Paul Elvstrom won a 5o5 Worlds with a scratch crew - off the beach. He taped a cane to the tiller extension and helmed from the trapeze. |
Posted By: jamesint505
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 7:25pm
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especially upwind just a bit frightened my hull wont take it!! ------------- 505 7567 |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 8:40pm
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I think it might work.....tempting to try it on the Fireball..............bad idea i know ! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: jamesint505
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 9:04pm
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just got a new mast and it has a set of holes where the ol trapeze wires used to be and another set further up .You are supposed to put your trapeze wires in the top holes and the lower ones have a couple of wires coming out and attach to the trapeze wires.its supposed to stop the mast inverting with the big kite.I was told you could sail with the wire on the lower holes wiith no problems this leaves two holes just begging for another set of wires though!!!! ------------- 505 7567 |
Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 07 Mar 05 at 10:47pm
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Well there are people who sail 505's single handed helming from the wire so if they can manage that? ------------- 
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 5:52am
| Should work upwind, but I doubt you will go much faster downhill - I think the 505 has a bit too much curve in the rocker line which sucks it down in the water too much to really let go and rip downwind - but I would be happy to be proved wrong... |
Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 8:24am
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i love to trapeze, i tihnk t makes sailing so thrilling and i like ur idea ------------- byte me!- GBR 814 |
Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 8:55am
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Its a bit dodgy trapezing from the top holes upwind. If its not windy enough, the mast will bend towards you and can't support the leverage, alot of boats pull the trapeze wires in to the lower holes upwind and use the top holes downwind. Might be okay if the guy using the top holes is quite light tho. Would be very interesting to see how long a gybe takes when its windy!!! ------------- Life's a reach, then you gybe |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 6:45pm
| How the hell do they change holes when they change course? |
Posted By: sailorguy
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 7:41pm
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when you come off the wire for the rounding you change? ------------- RS 500 (twin wire) Laser 157607 Laser 85446 Pico 2136 |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 8:31pm
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Yeah i thought that you would have to climb the mast with the spinnaker up undo and shackle and then put the shackle and trapeze wire in anova hole !
Gor blimey i think id live with having it left in the bottom hole ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 8:35pm
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Lol hat thought did go through my mind. lol. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 09 Mar 05 at 12:31am
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Unlike a 4 tonner, they are allowed to add as many bits of string as they like, so you just put a bit of string through the mast and out to the trapeze wires, lead it down to a cleat at the deck - pull on the string and the trap wires get pulled in to the lower holes - ta daaaaa!!!!! (Big applause, claps drum roles, cymbals crashing...) |
Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 09 Mar 05 at 10:32pm
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Yah but how do you get them up to the top holes ! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 09 Mar 05 at 10:35pm
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Oh that sounds slightly weird, think i might have to see one in action. ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: sailorguy
Date Posted: 10 Mar 05 at 10:21pm
just let off the string! ------------- RS 500 (twin wire) Laser 157607 Laser 85446 Pico 2136 |
Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 5:19am
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Got it in one...we'll make an engineer of you yet. |
Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 9:16am
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soumds like a good idea, what over classes do this? ------------- Jon Vortex 1169 http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club |
Posted By: I luv Wight
Date Posted: 11 Mar 05 at 9:39pm
Int moths used to do this for the shrouds and forestay - higher hounds = stiffer short topmast for more power. pull the string - lower hounds = bendier longer topmast for better gust response. ( but now they have tuned the rigs better, so don't need to ) |
Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:08am
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would it it just ripe out of the mast or snape the rope
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 10:50pm
It makes me feel quite humble to realise how little I know about sailing vocabulary... It never occurred to me before that a mast could be riped out... Does it turn from green to red and fall off? Is is where the Port / Starboard colours come from?? As for the snaping ropes, I'll come back for week 2... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 10:52pm
Yeah that did make me laugh, though i do like him being here, I have finaly found some one whos spelling is worse than mine.  ------------- http://theramblingsofmyinnergeek.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Beebe
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 9:39pm
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Are Laser 2000 supposed to have trapezes? Someone at our
club has them and I thought they were hiking boats |
Posted By: Mike278
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 5:11pm
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the tpreze on the 2000 is an optional extra, but i don't think it is class legal for racing ------------- Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night. |
Posted By: sailor
Date Posted: 23 Apr 05 at 8:37pm
Go 4 it mate life to short, whats the worst that can happen
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Posted By: Creaky
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 11:14am
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well if your looking for weird things to so with a 505, you can
experiment with putting a A symmetric on it, ive now manged to get a
buzz spinnaker on there and a boss spinnaker, all for laughs, i made up a make shift pole and went flying down wind off hayling, nobody new what boat i was sailing, and i think i will have to try that twin trapeze with an A symmetric, really go wild............... o and if anybody is selling a rerasonable 505 jib cheap i want one, mines starting to die from abuse, infact its dyed. creaky ------------- Nick |
Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 12:43pm
What colour is it now? ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 19 May 05 at 4:45pm
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the whole comment about the moth sounds a bit off to me, as weve got the prodder for that very reason and our masts pivot remember and rely upon a few solid principals, one of which is that the shroud and forestay positioning has to be right. ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |