Help Needed
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Forum Name: Repair & maintenance
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Topic: Help Needed
Posted By: pownallca
Subject: Help Needed
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 3:45pm
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My name is Chris from Bonding Solutions and I have recently launched a new product called Bond-Tight Marine Fastener. The product is designed to secure things without the need for drill holes or screws and has been used to mount navigational equipment, weather stations and many other things. It is virtually weather proof and holds up well against Salt spray and UV! I would like to send a small free sample to a handfull of people to see what their thoughts are and if possible recieve feedback. If you are interested please let me know.
Chris ------------- pownallca |
Replies:
Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:15pm
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Yes please! Still fitting out the new hull so would be an ideal thing to test,
save me tonnes of time and effort!! PM me for details etc ------------- |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:29pm
| are you still fitting that out?? You need to hurrey up dave its the tiger this weekend!! |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:35pm
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Chris I may interested in a sample, I would be interested in looking at a TDS if you could post a link that would be appreciated. Is your adhesive expoxy based or some other interesting chemical? Could it be used to bond 'high load' items like cleats? How well dose it with stand failure by 'peeling'? Would there be any chemical /galvanic issue when bonding to ally masts? Mark ------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:42pm
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Same questions as above. Will it work with things like Progrip? Permanent or removable once its applied and cured? I'm willing to give it a try though, send me a PM for details. ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 4:49pm
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Hi Its a reclosable fastening system, if you can think of Velcro but only much stronger. It's made of hundreds of tiny mushroom heads that interlock, the glue is acrylic based. Please pm me if you have any further questions. Chris ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: Fontal
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 5:36pm
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hmm i could give it a go you would get a good test up here in shetland some very harsh conditions up here. pm me ------------- Owner of international 14 Velociraptor GBR 1389 |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 5:41pm
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i am sorting out an old 29er and would definately be interested in testing it for you. sounds ideal for things like wind indicators, water bottles, compasses etc. ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 6:02pm
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hi chris i can use some on my fishing boat now that would be a test as you know how heavy handed fishermen are. andy ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 03 Feb 09 at 9:04pm
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It sounds the like the 3M hard core Velcro stuff that
came on the back of my Velocitech. ------------- Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it! |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 8:03am
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Hi Ross Not sure about 3M? It is nothing like Velcro but that was the only comparison I could think of, it mates to itself unlike Velcro and is by far stronger, does not fray and the adhesive is fantastic. It comes in black or Clear colour, I gues clear would be more popular for the Marine industry. Chris ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: dics
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 8:38am
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Chris, How will it take to bonding with gelcoat - gelcoat has no strength in it? So if you put any substancial load on it then will it just pull off the gel coat? Rich |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 10:20am
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Does it bond with UPVC? Odd question on a boat site, I know, but then I sail odd boats!
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 1:06pm
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Hi All It's very difficult to give an awnser to each specific question as all applications are very different and I would not like to advise people that the product will do certain things if it will not. The best thing I can say is I will send out a small sample for you to look at and test for free (while stocks last). Then you are in a position to make your own judgement for each individual application. Please PM me with your postal address if you would like a sample, I hope you think this is fair! Chris ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: Adam MR 1137
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 2:16pm
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Will the product bond to a painted surface, with a little bit of preparation with some 400 paper? If so sound like it could be a very good replacement for my bent water bottle holder and for the crappy velcro on the back of my snacks bag, in the cockpit of my OK. ------------- Merlin rocket 1137 OK 2049 Can be seen at http://www.wellandyachtclub.co.uk/ - WYC |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 04 Feb 09 at 2:53pm
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I design for griffon hovercraft and could use that in our smaller craft to secure things, also the mod craft I am working on at the moment to put all their rubbish around it. Please send me a sample or ur details and I will pass them on to our stores manager ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 05 Feb 09 at 9:25am
I would think it would stick to the gelcoat fine. Be good for holding things like compasses on maybe. As you say you wouldn't want it load bearing, but then you wouldn't use a velcro type fixture for that anyway would you |
?Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 05 Feb 09 at 9:28am
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Hi Rich I have never worked with gelcoat so I am unable to advise you, but from what your saying I would think you are correct. I am posting you a sample today and maybe this will help you work out if the product can be of use to you. Chris ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 05 Feb 09 at 9:35am
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That was what I was thinking; it's great stuff and I brought some more of it off eBay ... ------------- |
Posted By: dics
Date Posted: 06 Feb 09 at 3:55pm
Ha no. Just that my compass is in a high impact/load area when my loafers get out of control! I just have visions now of some bloke sticking his Lewmar winch down with this stuff!! |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 11 Feb 09 at 7:54am
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Hi All Just wondering if the samples have arrived ok and if so what your thoughts are? Chris ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 12:26pm
| It certainly seems solid enough, and i think would be ideal for attaching a compass with. |
Posted By: dave.blakesley
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 1:02pm
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Got mine the other day and was talking about it with Olly Love on sun whilst
waiting for the race to start. It seems solid enough, tho problem with sticking round corners, also pretty useful for tinkering with in lessons... ------------- |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 5:35pm
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Agreed with the above. For the first few cycles, there was a small loss of Mushrooms, but thats subsided now. Definitely strong enough for a compass, and will last longer than the Furry side of Velcro too!!
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: Fontal
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 6:10pm
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yup it's arrived looks perfect for fixing a water bottle to the 14 ------------- Owner of international 14 Velociraptor GBR 1389 |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 12 Feb 09 at 6:31pm
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i agree it does seem to do a great job i have put it on my fishing boat and it has not fallen off yet so its lot better than glueing blocks wood to screw into .
------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 13 Feb 09 at 9:30pm
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as yet to try it on the boat. its seems a lot stronger than velcro and feels like it would last longer. i would happily attach my lunchbox, compass etc with it. i personally would buy it over velcro. in fact this lovely sample is being used to attach a knife to my transom. ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 02 Mar 09 at 9:14pm
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A big thank you to everyone that requested a free sample, your feedback has been invaluble! It would seem that the strength of the adhesive and the ability to stand up to salt spray and damp conditions has been the real plus point for most people. We plan to approach lots of Chandlers around the uk to see if they will stock Bond-Tight. In the mean time it can be purchased at http://www.bondingsolutions.co.uk - www.bondingsolutions.co.uk To view an Independent review by ybc.com please follow the link below- http://marinedirectory.ybw.com/Marine_Directory/products/consumer/full_review.jsp?r_id=570&category_id=13 - http://marinedirectory.ybw.com/Marine_Directory/products/con sumer/full_review.jsp?r_id=570&category_id=13 ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 15 Apr 09 at 8:29am
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Hi All Just wondered if you have anymore feedback for me? ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: gary145
Date Posted: 23 Apr 09 at 11:09pm
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just wondering, can you machine sew through it, like velcro? ------------- |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 24 Apr 09 at 7:46am
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Hi Sorry no it would not be advisable! ------------- pownallca |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 27 Apr 09 at 8:06am
Hi Just wondered if the Bond-Tight is still stuck to your boat?
------------- pownallca |
Posted By: pownallca
Date Posted: 28 Apr 09 at 5:37pm
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A big thank you to everyone that requested a free sample, your feedback has been invaluble! It would seem that the strength of the adhesive and the ability to stand up to salt spray and damp conditions has been the real plus point for most people. We plan to approach lots of Chandlers around the uk to see if they will stock Bond-Tight. You can also view an Independent review by following the link below- http://marinedirectory.ybw.com/Marine_Directory/products/consumer/full_review.jsp?r_id=570&category_id=13 - http://marinedirectory.ybw.com/Marin...category_id=13 To All Free Sample Testers Just wanted to let you all know that the Sailing Today have trialed Bond Tight Marine Fastener and liked it so much they are going to show their review in the club magazine over the next couple of months, also some major online Chandlers are looking to stock the product. I would really appreciate any further feedback that you may have. ------------- pownallca |