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Refinish on a Laser hull

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Topic: Refinish on a Laser hull
Posted By: Status
Subject: Refinish on a Laser hull
Date Posted: 23 Nov 08 at 4:21pm

How would I go about sorting out a poorly finished Laser hull. Ideally the deeper scratches would be filled and sanded then the hull repainted.

What preperation would the hull need before being painted and what would be the best thing to use? Yacht paint, some form of gel coat? If paint would the hull need a sealant or primer first?

Any tips most welcome.




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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 23 Nov 08 at 7:15pm
Don't paint it, use gel coat. A painted hull looks pants and is harder to sell.

I am sure there is an article in a recent mag that has the info on how to do this for a Laser. Can't remember if it was Y+Y or the other one though.


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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 23 Nov 08 at 7:48pm
I had a quick search via Google and all the gel-coat colours seem to be available, even some of the more ancient shades - definitely avoid paint it usually looks awful on a Laser and always begs the question, what are you trying to hide underneath it?,

Nigel  

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Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 24 Nov 08 at 11:07pm

definately use gel coat, you'll need to find out what colour your hull is through laser probably. if its grey, i think laser call it vela grey, but it comes in 2 different shades. if you need to colour match the hull, you need to sand an area with 2000 grit paper, and then polish it up so you have the actual colour of the boat to match. Best way to get the scratches out is to use a smallish sanding block locally on the scratches, and then once they are out switch to a bigger block to go over the larger areas. Even if the hull is proper fcuked it should take about 5 hours to have it looking brand new if you do it properly and use a polisher to buff it at the end.

on the other hand, you could pay me to do it for you



Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 12:04am
Just out of interest what sort of money is it too have a few scratch that couldn't be polished out and about about 5 cm long 

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Josh Preater

http://www.bu22.co.uk">BUZZING IS FUN



Posted By: Status
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 8:39am
Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

definately use gel coat, you'll need to find out what colour your hull is through laser probably. if its grey, i think laser call it vela grey, but it comes in 2 different shades. if you need to colour match the hull, you need to sand an area with 2000 grit paper, and then polish it up so you have the actual colour of the boat to match. Best way to get the scratches out is to use a smallish sanding block locally on the scratches, and then once they are out switch to a bigger block to go over the larger areas. Even if the hull is proper fcuked it should take about 5 hours to have it looking brand new if you do it properly and use a polisher to buff it at the end.

on the other hand, you could pay me to do it for you

If you are local I may just do that.



Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 6:25pm

where are you based.

buzz585.....do they need gelling, or just sanding out?



Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 7:02pm
hi
i had my boat re polished this summer profesionaly and now looks brand new however did cost me quite alot of money but i think it is well worth it especially if you want to sell


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Posted By: Status
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 7:40pm
I'm based in Bedfordshire, not far from Milton Keynes. 


Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 10:44pm

I'm based in soutampton.

No limits, what boat did you have done, and where did you get it done?



Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 25 Nov 08 at 11:52pm
Steve GTI - Just for example the laser would need gelcoating then polished to look almost invisible

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Josh Preater

http://www.bu22.co.uk">BUZZING IS FUN



Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 26 Nov 08 at 6:47am
wow a blessing an invisible laser :P

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Tasar 3501
RS600 698
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 26 Nov 08 at 11:02am
Ok it was late just finished big essay, obviously meant to say for the repair to look almost invisible

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Josh Preater

http://www.bu22.co.uk">BUZZING IS FUN



Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 26 Nov 08 at 6:19pm

if it is a 5cm scratch, which needs gelling, then it would be the time to get the colour match right, plus the time to do the actul repair.

Once the gel is on and has gone off, it would probs be about 20 mins to o a 5 cm repair



Posted By: Status
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 9:03am
Looks like my refinish is going to be on a Solo hull/deck rather than a Laser one now as the Laser purchase fell through and a GRP Solo took its place.


Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 1:46pm

Not an issue if you're doing a whole boat, but be careful buying the right shade of gelcoat for repairs. It fades over time. I needed to repair a biggish chip out of the gunwhale on my Lark & Rondar supplied a pot of pigment matched to a sample I sent them.



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D-Zero 316



Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 9:48pm
stevie_GTI
i got my boat done by local boat builder dave bulter he did a very good job and although he did send away for final polishing which took time. I would happily get him to do the job again
If you want to know anymore details pm me

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Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 29 Nov 08 at 7:59pm
Im a boat builder myself, so would do any work i needed doing myself. I was just  interested as to who did the work for you.


Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 30 Nov 08 at 4:57pm
oh ok im sorry it was dave butler of butler boats although he did have it sent away for final polishing


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Posted By: Status
Date Posted: 07 Dec 08 at 9:02am

Well I collected my new boat yesterday. She's an all GRP solo and is much better condition than expected. The hull in particular is in very good shape and will not need a re-finish after all.

The deck however appears to have ben painted at some point. The original red gelcoat has faded to more of a dark orange and it therefore shows up quite vividly where the red paint has flaked off in a few places.

I'd like to repaint the deck and will obviously need to remove any flaking paint first.

My question for you is what can I paint it with? I was thinking a 2 part International boat paint. If I use this will I need a primer or undercoat first? Whilst it will not be in the water all the time I obviously want it to look good and be durable.

Many thanks

Chris.



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