Nobody seems to of mentioned the Star
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Topic: Nobody seems to of mentioned the Star
Posted By: Laser 173312
Subject: Nobody seems to of mentioned the Star
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:48am
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Excelent end campain by Iain and Andrew. 2 points behind the Swedes 12 in front of the Brazilians, Medal race to go. Another great medal prospect. Well done lads.
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Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 9:32am
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Good work guys... It's going to be a gripping medal race as virtually anyone could win it or lose it..if they do win it then whose going to volunteer to lift their boat out of the water with them in it when they return to the dock!! |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 10:34am
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Perhaps team GBR could become the victim of a "sail down the fleet"....
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Posted By: tornado435
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 10:42am
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Supposed to be a return to Sunday's wind.
Let's hope they manage to show the tornado's and stars off well. e good to have some good quality racing as a finale |
Posted By: kanga
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 12:09pm
I doubt it with the match racing expertise of Iain Percy at the helm....... |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 4:34pm
Unlikely, with so many teams in with a chance. |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 5:15pm
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That only works if the series #1 has enough points cushion not to be threatened by #3 which isn't the case here. |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:57pm
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Ok then I've had to get a pen and paper out for this IF Swe finish 7 or better they are assured of at least a silver if GBR finish 6 or better they are assured of at least a silver BRA must finish 3 or better for any chance of gold 4 or better for silver. for every place below 1st then SWE and GBR can add one place to above scores. If SWE and GBR finish 7 and 6 or better respectively then who ever comes in ahead wins Gold. for every place that BRA are behind 1 obviously add 1. so for example if GBR finish first BRA can't win gold (goes to GBRas Ahead of SWE) but if BRA were second then SWE would need to be 8 or better for silver! Confused.....I can't wait to see the commentators trying to describe this. Oh and I have paid no attention to the boats who may be able to screw the BRA over.
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 10:15pm
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My comments still stand; If I was SWE I would be sticking like glue to GBR, but keeping a close eye on where BRA are. IF BRA are down the pan, then SWE atacks GBR, if not then SWE needs to sail fast; IF GBR get away then SWE may have problems if BRA are in "Contention". I think it depends on the wind. If its light and fluky, SWE will stay closeish to GBR, but not bang a corner if GBR choose to; IF BRA sail a blinder and disappear then SWE might go back to bury GBR. Will be interesting to watch. I agree there is no clear cut plan for SWE unless they just go for speed. GBR (IMO) will just try and sail away and keep clean.
IF there is some wind, it could get very interesting!!!! ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:20am
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Decent wind. And Ainslie in the commentary box- though sadly, with Simmonds...
Advantage SWE at the moment |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:25am
| For big heavy old boats with no spinnakers, they're fair motoring down the offwind leg. VERY close. |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:32am
| Advantage over SWE, but BRA might get through to Gold! |
Posted By: kanga
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:35am
its too tense to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:40am
| One of the problems with the graphics they show is a total lack of scale- by the graphics, the boats are about 0.5m long. When the distances are so small, boat length is important. ARGH. BACK TO THE SAILING. LEAVE ROB AND SHIRLEY FOR POST RACE! |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:43am
| BLOODY HELL! FOUR GOLDS FOR GBR! |
Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:43am
Best race yet! GBR gold
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:45am
| That was exhausting just watching! |
Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:45am
| for heavy old tubs i really enjoyed that well done lads |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 7:55am
| I'm waiting for the next time someone says the Stars aren't exciting to watch...... |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 8:04am
| That was simply awesome - nice one Iain & Bart! It's been a while since Bart crewed for me! |
Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 8:16am
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Fantastic effort by Perce & Bart..to round off an awesome regatta for team GBR Well done everyone! |
Posted By: Laser 173312
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 8:38am
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Super result. 4 Gold, 1 Silver and 1 Bronze. That's over half the medals available. Well done to the whole team. Familiar scenes for Robert coming up. Standing on the second step wearing a silver medal while the British national anthem plays.
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Posted By: Roy Race
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 9:26am
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Ben Ainslie's commentary was superb, really helpful and insightful. He picked up on the details that Shirley and Richard have been missing all week. When he finally made the call at the end and said, "They're going to do it", I didn't doubt it for a second.
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 9:50am
| Missed all the post-race stuff (had to leave for work), who followed up Bryony Shaw by swearing like a true sailor? |
Posted By: Princey
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 10:16am
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I believe it was Iain. Radio five played the interview but bleeped out the F word. Iain then commented that sailing wasn't just for posh boys...!!
Did anyone else catch Ben's comment during the tornado race. Along the lines of "the Germans are in the pi#s!! |
Posted By: JohnW
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 10:34am
Fantastic results But I think you need to check your maths - Perhaps you meant we got a medal in over half of the events (not quite the same thing). |
Posted By: Laser 173312
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 10:47am
As each county only has 1 competitor in each event GBR could only win 11 medals and we got 6. That's what I was getting at.
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Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 10:48am
It is the same thing in sailing with one competitor per nation - as a country you can only get a maximum of 11 medals, so getting 6 is fantastic. |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 11:03am
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Looks like GBR were doing some sailing down the fleet. Good work guys. ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: JohnW
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 12:36pm
No it is not the same thing! But this is a Sailing forum not a Statistics forum so lets just agree that it is a fantastic set of results. Either way, I really enjoyed the Star medal race and well done Team GBR. |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 12:46pm
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That Star race was awesome. As a skiff sailor I MUCH preferred watching that to that 49er medal race fiasco. They look so complicated to sail, that rig and jib system is just bizarre! ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 4:14pm
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Could someone explain how the jib/whisker pole system works? It looks like they loosen the foot of the jib about a foot and let it fly up like a spinnaker
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Posted By: JohnW
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 4:44pm
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The mast is raked forward going down wind, this (amongst other things) loosens the jib luff making the jib fuller. http://www.quantumsails.com/get_file.aspx?file=2ae71cec-08b1-40bd-a037-b26474655685 - Clicky Also it seems that the jib works better downwind when raised about a foot http://www.starclass.org/artman/publish/article_16.shtml - http://www.starclass.org/artman/publish/article_16.shtml (see bottom of page) |
Posted By: KennyR
Date Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 6:45pm
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A few reasons for lifting the jib up on the run 1) It stops it flopping around when the hounds go forward several feet on th erun It used to be that the jib was just lifted until the clew ring hit the pin on the forestay connector, some 16" up from the deck, but many boats are now using forestays that connect under the deck and allow the jib to go up to any height. |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 22 Aug 08 at 10:34am
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A very tense and exciting race, but it looks like Iain and Andrew's winning move was made at the windward mark, they were behind up the beat and then just after the windward mark they were in front of the swedes. So WHY did they cut away at that point to Rob and Shirley talking about how wet and windy it is??? I can see it's wet and windy, show me the race! ------------- RS600 1001 |