Finn & Yngling Race 1
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Topic: Finn & Yngling Race 1
Posted By: alstorer
Subject: Finn & Yngling Race 1
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:04am
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/live_action/default.stm?lmpid=b00cpfhv&sid=7534974 - Currently watching here
Looks bloody grim. Ainslie leading in the Finn. |
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:07am
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Very and I mean VERY light winds ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:09am
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14 second lead at mark 3 ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:09am
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12 or so second lead round mark 3. Final downwind leg now.
The wind might be rubbish, but the ten minutes I've now watched, the coverage is rather good. |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:28am
| Looks like he's down to third or fourth- the horror of being able to do so little when micro-puffs come through, even when you're top of the game. |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:32am
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Talking now about the tide affecting the sailors - not great ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:33am
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It looks dire doesn't it. Huge tide and no wind - Ben's dropped right back on the final leg... |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:33am
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It would appear that Ainslie is not out of the lead group - Greece leading ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:36am
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Greeks won the race, Ben Ainslie has finished ninth - make that tenth. He lead by 100 metres at the windward mark but a shift and drop in wind half way down the final run let through 9 other sailors. Qingdao is going to form! |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:37am
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And the result is..... I think Greece USA Poland India France Croatia Brazil
GBR - 9th ish ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:38am
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Make that 10th ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:44am
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Gutting. That can't be fun. Well done to the Greek guy though. And most of the top seeds well down the rankings too.
The long lens cameras do foreshorten things horrilbly Who's the guy in commentary box with Shirley? |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:46am
| Sounds like good news from the Yngling course though- from 11th at the final windward mark to 2nd at the finish! |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:47am
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Richard Simmonds is doing the commentary with Shirley. Sounds like the Yngling girls have fought back to second after being last at the first mark! |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:47am
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Don't know who the King Edward is (commentator), but just said that GBR is 2nd in the Yngling after been dead last at the previous mark ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:08am
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I've now got the results online - go to http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=142837 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=142837
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:15am
| In sequence for Yngling Race 2. Commentary team asleep? |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:21am
| South Africans seemed to get a good start there |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:27am
| I thought the two classes were supposed to be on seperate race areas? The fleets just sailed through each other... |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:42am
What awful sailing conditions  but no doubt Jim thinks it's fine ------------- |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:48am
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Dutch have opened up a HUGE lead, but can they make it stick?
Stern cams make me a bit queasy 
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:55am
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I'm just off to watch some paint dry ... ------------- |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am
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Looks like a replay of the last Olympics; a poor start for Ben but it just fired him up and look what happened ------------- RS600 1001 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am
| hehe. Not exactly high-octane excitement, is it? |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am
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Wind is a mess, but it is the same wind for all - so work with it
Very impressed with the speed of the spinnaker lifts and drops in the Yngling races ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:00am
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Ainslie leading race 2
The Dutch Yngling team have never sailed together before this event - and they are leading race 2 by minutes ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:08am
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Ainslie wins race 2 Guess he will be 3rd overall ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:09am
| They've not sailed together in actual competion, but they had many imes during the training/selection process. An interesting experiment in putting together a team- they used three boats, three bow, three middle and three helms, and chopped and changed repeatedly. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 10:03am
I never said it was wonderful, I just said I thought they'd get to race. But race two didn't look too bad. |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 1:41pm
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when is the next 'session' showing? ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 1:58pm
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49ers. Tomorrow morning. 6 am
------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 2:31pm
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Is it all on the water judges? There seem plenty of congestion around the marks with the Ynglings - what was the USA doing with the kite up dodging the boats still coming up the beat - didn't seem to do them much harm though.
------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: Vronny
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:08pm
| Yes, the USA Yngling looked as if it had got in the way of several boats as it gybed onto port and started the run. But the commentators didn't seem to notice any of that! |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:22pm
| I saw at least two other boats doing turns in that race: I'd be suprised if they'd have got away with anything significant. Telephoto foreshortening? |
Posted By: Vronny
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:50pm
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By the way, if you go on the ISAF site you can find out what the On-the-water Jury busied themselves with today. http://www.sailing.org/olympics/racing/onwater.php - http://www.sailing.org/olympics/racing/onwater.php Looks like several Finns got caught for pumping. The Greek Finn that won the 1st race seems to have had to do turns - and then what happened in the 2nd race? |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 6:03pm
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A second infraction of rule 42 in the regatta (and third and so on) requires the sailor to retire from the race. Failure to retire leads to a non-discardable DSQ. For third offences and so on sailors are required to retire and will be given a non-discardable DSQ. Failure to retire will result in an early plane home. It's all in addendum P of the sailing instructions. http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/08_OG_SailingInstruct%20ions-%5B5934%5D.pdf - Sailing Instructions ------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 10 Aug 08 at 2:26pm
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I wonder how much pressure has been put on the Race Officers to start races, after all the Chinese would have looked pretty silly if not alot of races happened? I'm not sure I'd have strated a couple of them if I were on the Comittee boat. thoughts? ------------- I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e! |