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Topic: what boat ???
Posted By: rudderlesslaser
Subject: what boat ???
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 10:42am

hi guys,

I want to move into a different class after sailing lasers for 4 years.

want somthin fast but controllable

got any ideas




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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 10:52am
RS300 without a doubt

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 10:58am
Add a few more parameters...

Where do you sail?
How fast do you want to go?
what's your experience?
Trapezes, wings? third sails?

As far as I can see, watching the top Moth boys, their boats are quite controllable for them, but maybe not for you... You are in UAE are you? I'm not sure what boats are sailed there.


Posted By: Chris Bridges
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 11:00am

Top Moths yes... But if you know who Antony Chapman is, he is a pretty good sailor but recently got a moth, he has A LOT of wipe outs.

edit: that is guessing you mean foiling moth..



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Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 12:23pm
RS-Vareo: hiking boat like a Laser, and with an Asymmetric kite for those down-wind thrills.


Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 1:09pm
im luking at movin to a rs600 frm a laser via some trapezeing practices on a 4k so thts a pos

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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 1:21pm

Would be interested to see where this thread goes.

For singlehanders, the RS range has a little more to offer. The Vareo, 300, 600, or 700 are available for those looking to move up. If you can get over to Burghfield for test sails then I would probably recommend it.

Topper doesnt have anything to offer singlehanders and Laser only has the Vago which isnt a true singlehander boat.

Then the contenders, international canoes and Musto's are a stepping stone from the above.

Are there any other boats out there for singlehanders after the Laser?

 



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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 1:30pm

 

It depends what you mean by 'after a Laser', whether it's something that's like a Laser but faster (Blaze, RS300 etc) or adding an extra challenge like a kite and or trapeze.

I think all the usual options have been mentioned, best advice is have a few test sails and see what floats yer boat



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Posted By: GBR884
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 6:34pm

Well i went from a laser to briefly helming a 4000 then straight into a 600.

I had almost no trapeze experiance and if i'm honest was pretty rubbish in the laser and not very good in the 4000!! But now i'm loving life in the 600, if you dont mind getting abit wet at first then its an awesome boat!!

The guys on the circuit are really helpful and really friendy if you consider taking it that far. I probably learnt more in my first two opens than i did in 6 months of the boat!!

I know i'm kind of biased as i have one but i would highly recommend it!

Adam



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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 8:14pm

hiking or trapeze?

kite or unarig?

weight?

sailing area?

first cost and annual budget?

There's a load of choice out there.

At my club the fashion went from lasers to varios to asymetric canoes and RS700s with the odd Musto Skiff and RS300.  The RS700 isn't as threatening as it looks in fact and something of a dream down wind, especially if you're already ok on trapeze and asymetrics, but the first cost and insurance are a little scary and the standard of sailors is pretty high.



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Posted By: no limits
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 8:23pm
just a quick question about the rs600 what is the minmuim wieght realistically? thanks

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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 08 May 08 at 9:04pm
Oh well another of 'those' topisc ..

Just got to mention the Blaze of course .... but we are biased.  Try one, try all the others that grab your attention and then make an informed decision.  Sail what suits you ....

Want help / trial  ?  Builders and CA's will all help you.

Blaze 720 

PS - try blaze-sailing.org.uk or simply google  'Blaze dinghy' or similar.


Posted By: GBR884
Date Posted: 10 May 08 at 8:18am

Well i'm 60kgs and dont have a problem as i use the wide wings! but you could go lower - You just might have to reef a tiny bit earlier than the bigger guys.

I never thought i'd reef becuase i'd just go windsurfing when its that windy, but at the northampton event i had to (along with half the fleet!) and it made it 100 times easier. The people that i had previously been racing against that hadn't reefed werent actually that much faster until they capsized and then i just caught up!!So if your really light you just reef!!

That left me considering how windy it would need to be and how often i'm realistically going to windsurf... (considering i'm a sponsered windsurfer that was pretty worrying!)

You shouldn't have a problem with a minimum weight unless your under 50kgs!!

Adam



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