Trapeze wire 'keeper'
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Topic: Trapeze wire 'keeper'
Posted By: ColH
Subject: Trapeze wire 'keeper'
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 6:39pm
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Can't think of a better term for it, but I'm referring to the short piece of shock cord connecting the two trapeze wires at spreader height. I had this on the Contender, but don't remember whether the length wants to be: 1. Such that when both wires are bungeed at the gunwhale, neither can slip round the wrong side of the shroud i.e. shockcord just under 2 speader lengths; or 2. Such that when both wires are un-bungeed, neither can slip round the wrong side of the shroud i.e. shockcord just under 1 speader length. I guess, on the water, its only case 1 that is important? |
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 08 at 10:55pm
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is this a piece of elastic that stops trap lines getting caught around the battens on the leach of the sail? this sounds like a great idea for the 600, consider it stollen. sorry i can't help with the lenghts question. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 10:23am
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I think the idea is to stop the wire slipping round to the front side of the spreader ------------- |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 11:41am
I have never used this before buit I'm guessing it will need to be fairly long, or else when going downwind at the back of the boat it will pull you forwards? Maybe you could try it and not the cut the bungee down in case it needs changing? And Mike, Stollen is a German bread like cake. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 12:58pm
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Less of a problem on a Fireball compared with a Contender, but I take your point. ------------- |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 1:53pm
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hmm, did i mean stolen perhaps? and this is why im not doing english at AS. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Graham T
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 2:14pm
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Well I know what Stollen is but whats a break like cake? ------------- Osprey 55 "Tebutinnang" Osprey 1245 "Two Bob Bit" Miracle 1358 "Thumper" |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 08 at 2:35pm
 i didnt spot that!------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 8:58am
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This elastic stops the trapeze wire getting caught around the spreader, principally after a capsize. Mine is pretty long (doubled) so it forms a large loop and is probably about 800mm of 4mm bungee - its just tightens sufficiently to stop the wire flopping around the front. However, I notice the other contender at the club has a much neater arrangement using a single, much shorter length of thinner bungee (probably about 500mm) tied to the trapeze wires and passing in front of the mast just above the spreaders. ------------- Garry Lark 2252, Contender 298 www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk |
Posted By: Graham T
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 9:46am
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On the Osprey ours goes over one spreader and under the other to stop it riding up or down the trap wires. Its a fairly light bungee just to stp the trap wire from going in front of the spreader. ------------- Osprey 55 "Tebutinnang" Osprey 1245 "Two Bob Bit" Miracle 1358 "Thumper" |
Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 12:53pm
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It does not need to be long - as shown in this photo. Remember over one spreader and under the other. ------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 2:47pm
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What does it achieve? ------------- |
Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 3:01pm
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the main can push the trapeze wire infront of the spreader whe sailing dead downhill (no fancy assym to keep the apparent forward and main in), this is to keep the trap wire close to the mast and not pushed in front of the spreader which is then stuck when you come to use it again making you loose time trying to flick it back round. it was one of the 1st things i did to my old container, very useful. probably wouldnt be needed on a musto / 700. ------------- https://skiff-media.teemill.com/" rel="nofollow - T-SHIRTS https://www.photo4me.com/profile/23908/" rel="nofollow - PRINTS |
Posted By: Contender512
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 5:01pm
That'll be my boat then! Rather than go over than one spreader and under the other, I have tied a small plastic ring tightly to the front of the mast at spreader height, the elastic goes through this ring from above the spreaders. The elastic is 2 or 3mm (basically the thinnest bit I had spare) and is slightly shorter than the spreaders on each side. Just make sure it's stretchy enough to allow you to trapeze off the back of the boat! |
Posted By: Kudlinski
Date Posted: 02 Feb 08 at 6:03pm
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good timing for this post, just in the process of putting the contender back together this weekend. ------------- RS400 866 RS300 381 |
Posted By: ColH
Date Posted: 03 Feb 08 at 5:02pm
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The elastic is 2 or 3mm (basically the thinnest bit I had spare) and is slightly shorter than the spreaders on each side.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the confirmation - and I like the ring idea! ------------- |
Posted By: Contender512
Date Posted: 03 Feb 08 at 7:07pm
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Not my idea - I copied it from another Contender. The ring is lashed around the base of each spreader to keep it in place with whipping twine and doesn't interfere with spreader adjustment. |