Crazy weekends sailing
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Topic: Crazy weekends sailing
Posted By: RyanV49er
Subject: Crazy weekends sailing
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 2:50pm
Looks like it's going to be breeze on this weekend. Who's doing what and where?
We're going to try to train from Lym, but if we get the same conditions as saturday last weekend, it'll probably be a bad idea. It's gets very hectic near hurst Castle with wind against tide, but we still managed to get a decent session in (even if we did wipeout a fair few times. 49ers just can't take big wind and waves....)
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 3:52pm
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 4:49pm
35 to 40 kts for us. Tempted to get another ample person to crew..... but then again probably not. What in gods name am I thinking of !!!!
I shall heckle the windsurfers instead
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Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by Contender 541
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Oh no! I've got go out with my brother in a 400 so he can learn rudderless sailing (his dinghy instructor assement next weekend!), and with 30kts it could be quite a 'experience'!
Dare I say it ... finally some Windsurfing weather!
  
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 5:09pm
Rudderless is no londer a requirment to be an instructor.
PANSIES! I'm sailing Flat Stanley this weekend.
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Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Ross
Rudderless is no londer a requirment to be an instructor.
PANSIES! I'm sailing Flat Stanley this weekend.
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Rudderless isnt a requirement to become an instructor but the people who run the courses in suffolk still make you do it as a requirment, therefore we have to do it .
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 6:13pm
I did it ..
In a reefed Laser 2k, in 30 knts at QMSC
Shortly before a total inversion ( and rya style - wet!! ) capsise!!
Oh .. In early Feb.
Admitedly, the womens keelboat racing was going on, so we had people to chat too in the bar afterwards ....
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 6:52pm
Hmmm, turns out I have no crew for tomorrow. Might solo it
in a 3k, maybe the cherub I’m feeling adventurous/mad.
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by Ross
Rudderless is no londer a requirment to be an instructor.
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Really ... well it seems they give out A levels like bog paper these days so why not a instructors ticket ...
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Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 6:54pm
Hopefully out in the 400 in PD 30knts forecast
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 7:06pm
Nope, too windy down in Plymouth this weekend for the 12ft. Will have to wait until Tuesday.
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 8:36pm
MY GIRL FRIEND HAS REFUSED TO CREW FOR ME AS SHE HAS GOT US TICKETS FOR US TO GO AND SEE LIVERPOOL. IM GUTTED AS THERE IS GOING TO BE PLENTY OF BREEZE. AH WELL WINDSURFING TOMORRO INSTED
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 8:37pm
No sailing at all now. No club sailing on saturday for some reason!!! balls.............
However, I am sailing flat stanley on sunday when its going to be even windier!
Time to show the club the awesome speed of the cherub.
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 8:48pm
None at all here ... Unless I feel like taking the Vareo out ( with new sails!! ) on Sunday ...
No, Dont think I'll be doing that if the 30 knts comes. I'll take my camera instead!
( Probably my turn for RO or Safety anyway! )
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by Villan
None at all here ... Unless I feel like taking the Vareo out ( with new sails!! ) on Sunday ...
No, Dont think I'll be doing that if the 30 knts comes. I'll take my camera instead!
( Probably my turn for RO or Safety anyway! )
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that is so typical of you James!
take the vareo out and let me sail it plz!
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Posted By: A Seabadger
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 9:27pm
May volenteer for rescue duty. Could be interesting!
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 9:52pm
Ratface ... Sunday?
You'll be at Grafham!
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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by tgruitt
Nope, too windy down in Plymouth this weekend for the 12ft. Will have to wait until Tuesday.
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Thats why you have a small rig Gruitt.....
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 01 Dec 07 at 12:09am
It's the right knid of weather to go haggis hunting.
Got one already in Oban, a little beauty! Oh, and one there, In Leicester Square!!
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Posted By: dopamine
Date Posted: 01 Dec 07 at 8:41am
Originally posted by Splosh
Originally posted by Contender 541
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Oh no! I've got go out with my brother in a 400 so he can learn rudderless sailing (his dinghy instructor assement next weekend!), and with 30kts it could be quite a 'experience'!
Dare I say it ... finally some Windsurfing weather!
  
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Ha ha! Sat or Sun Mark? I shall come over specially to watch.
Do you think there will be any swearing at all?
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Posted By: Splosh
Date Posted: 01 Dec 07 at 9:13am
Originally posted by dopamine
Originally posted by Splosh
Originally posted by Contender 541
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Oh no! I've got go out with my brother in a 400 so he can learn rudderless sailing (his dinghy instructor assement next weekend!), and with 30kts it could be quite a 'experience'!
Dare I say it ... finally some Windsurfing weather!
  
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Ha ha! Sat or Sun Mark? I shall come over specially to watch.
Do you think there will be any swearing at all?
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You obviously know me and my brother well... yep, probably a bit of swearing lol!
We will be at alton both days! Today seems to be the best forcast for it as its only forcast 27mph not 35mph forcast on sunday!
It will probably be worth a visit lol, a don't forget the camera!
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 01 Dec 07 at 5:00pm
after last nights antics and a 5 oclock bed time (in an extreamly drunken state) i awoke today with the refreshing thourgt of going windsurfing (whilst tryin to convince myself i will feel better for it later on. i got to the club early afternoon and spotted stu in his new cherub sailing with his brother. apparently he had oly just launched the boat and i hadnt missed much. with an audience on the shore including myself watching stu and his brother showing everyone how to sail. or should i say how to swim around a boat. he must have capsized 20 times in 30minuets sailing. if there was ever an award for most capsizes then stu should have it!! however looked fast when it was going.
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Posted By: craig-m
Date Posted: 01 Dec 07 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Contender 541
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Contender 541 you whimp!!! You and Gary are plenty heavy enough for the conditions expected!!!
Ok...maybe your boat might not be up to it, but thats all part of the fun, guessing whats gonna break next!!!
O well...i'll certainly have fun sailing my 4.7 tomorrow 
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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 8:17am
It is currently blowing force 7 to 9 in the channel so there will be no sailing for us.
Time to light the log fire, cook a roast and think about ordering that new boat.....
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 12:04pm
well bramblemet has just given a 1942 knot gust THIS IS NOT A PHOTOSHOP! HONEST!
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by craig-m
Originally posted by Contender 541
Already cancelled any thoughts of sailing this weekend.
Sunday is forecast 30kts for us , I think I will crew a Sunday roast instead
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Contender 541 you whimp!!! You and Gary are plenty heavy enough for the conditions expected!!!
Ok...maybe your boat might not be up to it, but thats all part of the fun, guessing whats gonna break next!!!
O well...i'll certainly have fun sailing my 4.7 tomorrow 
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And your dads shroud went pop because???
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 2:24pm
wenrt racing today in the merlin, racing got abandoned 20 mins into the first race due to mentally strong winds, we managed to ram the mast foot at least 5 or 6 cm into the mast cracking it for a good foot above that. attempting to sail in with the mast damaged under just the jib was very difficult and resulted in lots of swimming and bruising , eventually had to furl the jib and walk the boat back along the bank in a capsied position as we couldnt make any headway against the wind witht the boat upright,
there was only 2 boats out of 20 odd who managed to sail all the way in a laser and a topper.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 3:46pm
It was blowing a 7 at King George and was actually
considering the cherub . We settled for the reefed 3000 and we went
out for a blast. We were doing pretty well and then we popped the kite and had
monumental kite run down the lake. Pulled off a few gybes and ditched it in on
the last one. We sailed back up for another run popped the kite and started to
head back in when a HUGE gust hit us out of nowhere and we pitch poled.
I though we would just let the gust blow through but it just didn't stop. 3-4 foot waves on a lake! We couldn't even right the boat so we had drop the
main in a capsized position and after a few attempts to sail in we just drifted
in on our side. It took about 20 minuets.
It's a shame I don't have a GPS, we were going pretty god damn quick!
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
well bramblemet has just given a 1942 knot gust |
It must be using GPS [grin]
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:14pm
this is what 50knt gusts can do to the boat


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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:17pm
uh ... whoops!
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:26pm
it is a spice though
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
it is a spice though |
Hard to understand, does that mean "it is a spice" meaning who actually cares it had it coming or "its a spice" meaning its not built very well
    
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:39pm
but its something you expect to happen to a cherub or i14!
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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:47pm
That wouldnt happen on a 14 i dont know where people get the idea that they are weak from !
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 5:20pm
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 6:09pm
Wasn't that lose when you were visiting the bbsc? I had some crazy sailing today in the 600. Gusting force 9 on the barometer Keeping up with the rib which was preety much flat out And lots of swimming and a couple of serious pitchpoles Pics soon
Hopefully
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 6:51pm
sounds good george, the only thing which is slightly confusing me is how a barometer can record wind speed?
wish i could have taken my 6 out today but is still dont have a rudder blade and there was no water. also i suspect i would have spent more time flying round the forestay than sailing. im starting to envy all you puddle sailors who have nice flat water all the time. hey ho waves make it interesting.
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Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by mike ellis
sounds good george, the only thing which is slightly confusing me is how a barometer can record wind speed?
wish i could have taken my 6 out today but is still dont have a rudder blade and there was no water. also i suspect i would have spent more time flying round the forestay than sailing. im starting to envy all you puddle sailors who have nice flat water all the time. hey ho waves make it interesting.
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 7:17pm
Flat water is good .... But it runs out quickly!
We had ripples on the lake today ..... Apart from when the hail decided to put in an appearance in one of the many 30+ knt gusts! Solid walls of ice flying into you while your trying to do safety .... That Hurts!!!
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But not as much as having to pay Topper to make you a oneoff rudder gantry 
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 7:23pm
why not get a cherub sailor to do it for you? you might just get a half decent product then.
and george the major problem is the lack of a rudder blade at the moment, and fear of breaking the boat again is also a pretty large factor.
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 9:32pm
hmm any cherub sailors/ people gd with carbon want to make me a new gantry?
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:25am
Originally posted by JimC
Originally posted by mike ellis
well bramblemet has just given a 1942 knot gust |
It must be using GPS [grin] |
Funny you should say that...The (now) infamous Blaze sailor was out at Burghfield at the weekend and has a recorded 22.4kts to further back up hos 20 odd kts at Bala. I believe he is going to submit it to the speed freaks competition....
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:27am
Originally posted by Villan
But not as much as having to pay Topper to make you a oneoff rudder gantry 
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Stuff that find a friendly metal shop and ask them nicely (reinforced with offers of lots of pints of the brown stuff) and you should get one made up pretty well.
Regards,
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:31am
I agree with Paul here, find an engineering shop and they will sort one out. By the looks of it, its only going to require a bit of cutting and welding. Maybe pre buy a crate of beer and take it in with you... most of the guys I know won't be able to say no by that point!
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 4:14pm
i bet nobal marine had an expencive weekend then lol. oh dear. i think because of that one weekend nobals excess may go up for everyone!
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Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 6:25pm
Lucky I'm insured with Nobel marine then isn't it!
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by ratface
this is what 50knt gusts can do to the boat


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Were you out at GWSC this weekend then ?
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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 8:53pm
we had 55 knots allday at warsash. was teaching a powerboat level 2. the rain was fun. just saw a band of black comming then nothing for a few mins
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 10:39pm
why yes les i was
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 04 Dec 07 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by Smight at BBSC
Wasn't that lose when you were visiting the bbsc?
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nope
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 4:18pm
When I used to go sailing the instructor would cleave me in 2 before rubbing salt water in the wounds and waking me 10 minutes before I went to bed......but if you tell the young people of that today they wouldn't believe you!!!!!
Gents (never Women!) see below FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE ON LAND
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Calm; smoke rises verticall.
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Direction of wind shown by
smoke drift, but not by wind
vanes.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Wind felt on face; leaves
rustle; ordinary vanes moved
by wind.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Leaves and small twigs in
constant motion; wind extends
light flag.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Raises dust and loose paper;
small branches are moved.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Small trees in leaf begin to
sway; crested wavelets form on
inland waters.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large branches in motion;
whistling heard in telegraph
wires; umbrellas used with
difficulty.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Whole trees in motion;
inconvenience felt when walking
against the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Breaks twigs off trees;
generally impedes progress.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale Slight structural damage occurs
(chimney-pots and slates removed).
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Seldom experienced inland; trees
uprooted; considerable structural
damage occurs.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Very rarely experienced;
accompanied by wide-spread damage.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane --
Are you sure about your INLAND wind speeds?!?!
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 4:27pm
I think that the majority of people like to verge on the side of exaggerated when discussing wind speeds.
When we were at Weymouth for the nationals this year, racing was canned on the final day as it was blowing 30knots plus all day. This was severely windy, no one apart from the smallest sailed windsurfers were out on the water. There was a gust of 52 knots which caused utter carnage. Boats blown over which were tied down, a double stacker of cherubs was blown through the air (i am talking rolling and bouncing across the dinghy park), Boats strapped down on road bases were moving across the car park, and oppy sailors were being blown about!
This gust probably lasted 20 seconds and caused a serious amount of damage but then dropped back to 25-35 knots. All I can say is that if you've experienced 50+ knots then you'll have known about it... if you think you have, then you'll be suprised when you actually do experience it! and the last place you'll want to be is anywhere near the water on a boat!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 4:33pm
At what level of wind would an insurance company refuse to pay out for damage?? (if you deliberately went out in a howler)
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 5:09pm
Well you shouldn't launch unless you feel you and your equipment are up to it. If I was an insurance company I think I'd run a hard line on claims through stupidity!
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 9:43pm
I agree that most people do exagerrate but also many anenometers tend to undereread that sort of gust - I say that from experience of sustained F10 breeze at sea.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 10:14pm
We defiantly registered a constant 7 and King George.
I am somewhat suspicious of the 50 knot claim. As Tim said, at the cherub nats
we had a 52 knot gust that pick up a fully loaded double stacker, completed
several mid air flips narrowly missing Tim's head and it landed in a row boats.
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by Ross
We defiantly registered a constant 7 and King George.
I am somewhat suspicious of the 50 knot claim. As Tim said, at the cherub nats
we had a 52 knot gust that pick up a fully loaded double stacker, completed
several mid air flips narrowly missing Tim's head and it landed in a row boats.
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Pics or it didn't happen ( GPS log would do though ... )
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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 10:24pm
I can assure you that it did happen! I even got a cut on my head from somewhere! I think there are pics of the destruction as 2 boats almost got sawn in half by the ropes they were tied down with, the stacker finished its gymnastic tumble upside down... and wait for it... a Boss got blown off its trailer!!!
I also saw an oppy sailer get blown over when he was holding his sail and get dragged about on his face... still not sure whether it was right to have laughed! 
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 10:27pm
ok, I'll trust you!
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 10:48pm
We have pics somwhere. I'll try and find some.
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 12:10am
Originally posted by timnoyce
I can assure you that it did happen! I even got a cut on my head from somewhere! I think there are pics of the destruction as 2 boats almost got sawn in half by the ropes they were tied down with, the stacker finished its gymnastic tumble upside down... and wait for it... a Boss got blown off its trailer!!!
I also saw an oppy sailer get blown over when he was holding his sail and get dragged about on his face... still not sure whether it was right to have laughed! 
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I was there.... very scary
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 12:31pm
Yes - And the club anenometer no doubt said 52kts - but did this happen all over the boat park? If so the wind was probably significantly more at the trailer itself.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 5:10pm
It's going to be windy again this weekend . Not like last weekend though.
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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by sargesail
Yes - And the club anenometer no doubt said 52kts - but did this happen all over the boat park? If so the wind was probably significantly more at the trailer itself.
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eh? why would the wind at the trailer be more than at the anenometer? bearing in mind these are usually at the highest point of the club.
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 7:50pm
yep windy windy windy. it actually sounds like fun thogh this weekend
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by friendly_fire
yep windy windy windy. it actually sounds like fun thogh this weekend |
Last weekend was fun!
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 9:26pm
It was fun but at my club no one else would go out so there wasn't an afternoon race
------------- Josh Preater
http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 07 Dec 07 at 9:28am
Tack'ho - what I',m getting at is that in extreme conditions an anenometer on the club will give a reading on strong and high level wind with potentially few interruptions - but that compression of airflow elsewhere in gusts, over sea walls and around objects can create very localised condiions of the kind described with trailers rolling etc. Those gusts can be much higher than what is being read.
Also the assumption that anenometers on for example clubs are getting a good reading can be false. In the kind of conditions described the area of turbulent flow as the wind blows over the obstruction can extend a significant height upwards - and therefore the usual situation of an overread compared to breeze on the water can actually be inverted.
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 07 Dec 07 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

our survey says....
'bloody howling!'
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Yup, and northerly, so we at WWSC would have to get off a lee shore and make it all the way over to the other side before any respite.. But would be able to get back onto our trollies and back up the ramp without putting them in the water.
Marvellous !!!
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 07 Dec 07 at 1:38pm
Sorry I could be wrong. Maybe westerly at . Just loads of falling over then. Or more likely a cup of tea in the clubhouse laughing at the "talent" on the water.
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 09 Dec 07 at 4:18pm
Good breeze today. Twinning it and absolutely caning it ! It's a shame I injured my boat. Stuck my
trapeze hook through the side tank getting back in after a capsize. Fairly
decent sized whole I have to fix now. Slightly tore the kite as well. 
------------- Ross
If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 09 Dec 07 at 4:46pm
Yeh! Good fun!!
Had the Vareo out for the morning, with the new sails!!
Certainly looks a lot different .. And feels a lot quicker with a kite thats got some shape!!!

But of course ... Upwind in a Vareo hurts ... So why bother sailing it flat!!

I was checking for weed!! Honest!!!!!! 
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 09 Dec 07 at 5:25pm
Why sail a boat thar hurts?
------------- Ross
If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Dec 07 at 6:08pm
I had my Finn doing up to 40mph on a hairy run home to the garage... Mental note, mothers car has towbar, but resist the temptation in future....
------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch"
Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air"
Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile"
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 09 Dec 07 at 6:13pm
I read the 1st 7 words and thought we had a record breaker on our hands along the lines of the Albacores...
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 9:12am
Originally posted by Ross
Good breeze today. Twinning it and absolutely caning it <!--[if !vml]--> <!--[endif]-->! It's a shame I injured my boat. Stuck my trapeze hook through the side tank getting back in after a capsize. Fairly decent sized whole I have to fix now. Slightly tore the kite as well. <!--[if !vml]--> <!--[endif]-->
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i dont know an awful lot about cherubs nor do i pretend to but what little i do know is that isnt fixing your boat like a cherub owners dream or somethink.
------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down
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Posted By: Ross
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by friendly_fire
Originally posted by Ross
Good breeze today. Twinning it and absolutely caning it <!--[if !vml]--> <!--[endif]-->! It's a shame I injured my boat. Stuck my trapeze hook through the side tank getting back in after a capsize. Fairly decent sized whole I have to fix now. Slightly tore the kite as well. <!--[if !vml]--> <!--[endif]-->
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i dont know an awful lot about cherubs nor do i pretend to but what little i do know is that isnt fixing your boat like a cherub owners dream or somethink. |
Not really the boats fault. Spinnaker got caught on a
shackle that I stupidly forgot to tape up. Both of those things could happen to
any one in any boat with a spinnaker and a trapeze.
Dreaming of fixing the boat, no. Upgrading it and making it go FASTER, YES!
------------- Ross
If you can't carry it, don't sail it!
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Posted By: Graeme
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 1:28pm
Looks like another 50 knot day inland to me.............
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Posted By: ratface
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 2:23pm
erm 'blym' doesnt get that! *blames trees*
------------- http://www.blym.org.uk/ - BLYM
http://www.blym.org.uk/hydrs/index.htm - Hertfordshire Sailing team
Uk-Cherub 2644
Laser 4000 -4089
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 10:14pm
Indeed.
TT - I didnt even TRY going upwind on the Grafham day .. Reached off the shore, Reached back etc etc etc
The few times I did try going upwind, It was closer to a close reach with the main almost flogging!
The new sails make a hell of a difference, Downwind was much quicker .. And I got planing much quicker than I would have done with the old kite.
Upwind - Main is much more powerfull ... Hence the heel in that pic It wasnt like that for the whole beat .. Honest!!
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 11:28pm
what boat were you sailing?
------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 11:34pm
Vareo
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers
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Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 10 Dec 07 at 11:36pm
are they good boats to sail i have only seen the fun rig one at our club and to be honest the person sailing it was a novice so i have not seen what one could do?
------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Dec 07 at 9:19pm
beast downhill but an absolute pig uphill.
------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318
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