How ?
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Topic: How ?
Posted By: Mopps
Subject: How ?
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 5:15pm
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would i go about putting on roughly a stone or so fairly quickly but not too much of a hurry that i die or something to that effect cheers x ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 5:34pm
Get in the gym and hit the weights, is the best way. The easiest way is to drink plenty of beer and eat plenty of kebabs ------------- |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 6:26pm
i know how you feel. iv been trying to gain weight for a year and put on a measly 6lbs  . iv now decided its easier just not to care anymore and just enjoy the lightwind days  ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 6:27pm
| A diet of exclusively beer, MacMorons burgers and cream cakes traditionally does the trick, or would you rather stay healthy as well? |
Posted By: neilw
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 6:51pm
how did you know my secret Finn diet? ------------- |
Posted By: Mopps
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 7:19pm
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don't care about being healthy i wasn't really healthy to begin with i will start on the crap eating diet right away  ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 7:44pm
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I'd recommend mexican food - tastes great, easy to make and without the benefit of a nice hot climate to work it of in, those tortillas will really pile on the lbs in no time!
------------- Feeling sorry for vegans since it became the latest fad to claim you are one |
Posted By: ptcruiser
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 8:36pm
| Get married! |
Posted By: Mopps
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 8:39pm
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somehow i dont think that last one is happening anytime soon retched sailing takes up all my time x ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 9:14pm
| Alot and often, protein bars and drinks, just don't put them in the fridge otherwise you'll expend all the energy eating the damn things! |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 9:17pm
Of course I can't think of many (indeed not any) classes where being a bloated lethargic stone heavier is actually faster. |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 9:39pm
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I'm also in the same situation, need to put 10kgs on for the Radial so I'm just doing weights, put on about lbs over this month so its a start i guess... Plus eat things that are high in protein as it helps build muscle. ------------- |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 27 Nov 07 at 9:53pm
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well how about the opposite? i need to loose a few kilos to be safe with wide racks and without lead for the 600. to be honest i should probably worry more about boat handling than little things like 3 kilos. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 9:27am
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Buy 3 months supply of slimfast Plan. Read the diet plan and note when you should eat the Slimfast. Ignore all the other advice. Then buy 3 months supply of weightr gain owder from your local gym. Empty the Slimfast down the sink - (it tastes horrible anyway) Replace it in the bottles with weight gain. Now pretend your on a dirt and stick to the slimfast programme. Soon you will be a fat bastard - and feel healhy - after all your on the Slim Fast diet plan! |
Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 9:42am
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i bet your the type of person that can eat anything and stay slim. i hate people like you. i so much as look and somthin unheathy and i gain a stone. iv got a good idea you can have some of mine if you really want ------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down |
Posted By: Smight at BBSC
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:02pm
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Mate stop being a homo and do some weights I don't want a lardy crew that gets tired easily what use is that Plus if you do weights you'll gain weight as well as muscle which is more useful than podge ------------- RS600 988 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:19pm
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Have you been to a gym recently, George? I think you'd change your opinion. When it comes to fitness, some of those guys you're so derogatory about would give a good run for your money... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:22pm
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High weight, low rep work in the gym, plus loads of protein - steak, chicken breasts, eggs and possibly Guinness. A little bit of fat won't hurt but you'd be suprised at how unfit you'll feel if you were to put on a stone of pure fat. Other advantage is generally people find Jonny Wilkinson more attractive than Jonny Vegas, think on... ------------- RS600 1001 |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:30pm
Good point, well made Isabelle. In fact they might even run you for free But seriously folks, doing big weights is great for bulking up, but don't go mad because it turns to fat real quick if you dont use it. Trust me on this one.
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Posted By: Mopps
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:41pm
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you saying i'm fat ? x ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
Posted By: Mopps
Date Posted: 28 Nov 07 at 5:43pm
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question posed to george ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 29 Nov 07 at 8:03am
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Rory shut up ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 1:14pm
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i think we have gone off the point a little bit here. i think you should join the rest of us fattys and eat more pies whiles watching sport on the tv insead of doing it whilst convincing your self that the 100 reps a day the you do lifting food up to ur mouth classes as exersize lol i think its called the homer simpson diet ------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down |
Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 5:11pm
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In the jump from the 29er to 49er, I had to gain a fair few kilos. I was sitting at around 77kg, and I've built up to 82.5kg. Basically, gym is the only way to do it healthily, without pressurising your joints etc by carrying excess weight as fat and not having the muscle to push it around. If you hit the gym, and you're over the age of 18, you should be taking in a lot of calories and protein. Aim for around 100g of protein each day (check with your doctor). A good measure is that 1 tin of tuna is around 20 g of protein, and is a great way to up your intake. Also, use protein drinks etc to ensure you provide your muscles with the building blocks to gain weight. Secondly, if you are taking on a heavy weights program, get a full gym induction and program written for you, aiming to build the large muscles groups (Chest, shoulders and legs), and always train both sides of the body. (I.e. front then back) to ensure and equal distribution of muscle and no irregularities or imbalances. Finally, don't forget to warm up before hand and stretch when you are done, to prevent injury and remain flexible. Oh, and take in protein before and immediatley after the session! ------------- Online sailing: For when you just can't get to the club: http://visser49erracing.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/online-sailing/ - Visser49erracing |
Posted By: friendly_fire
Date Posted: 30 Nov 07 at 8:33pm
wow you have weighed your self to half a kilo.  . seriously the HETHIEST WAY ITS TO GO THE GYM BUT HONESTLY ITS MORE FUN TO EAT YOUR WAY THERE ------------- when chuck norris does a press up, he doesnt lift himself up he pushes the earth down |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 4:22pm
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how long did it take you to gain those 5.5kg??? for me to go from about 67ish up to 77/78 would take a stupidly long length of time. plus if you stop going to the gym you turn it all into fat tell me, how does one do about putting weight on WITHOUT spending a fortune on protein shakes and when i only have so much free time? ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 5:36pm
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Don't worry about the expensive protein shakes, just eat a tin of tuna on
toast as snacks between meals. It's all about taking in a lot of calories. Once your body starts getting the calories and protein to build muscle, it'll speed up really quickly. I have managed to put on around 4 kg in the space of 3 months, fairly easily. How tall are you? If you are skinny, then putting the weight on will be easy. I was around 67 when I was 16, but without gaining any height I've gained weight up to 82.5, so it's not too bad. Just keep up the calories and gym work! ------------- Online sailing: For when you just can't get to the club: http://visser49erracing.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/online-sailing/ - Visser49erracing |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 6:31pm
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im about 5,10 and currently weigh in anywhere between 67 and 68.5kg normally depending on what/when iv eaten etc. im 18 so should be able to build muscle easiely. thing is i get stronger but with no real change in weight/muscle size. i dont suppose anyone has any gym routines etc which they would share with me (hiking singlehander orientated preferred but anything will do to start with). im thinking of trying 4sessions a week, mon, wed, thurs, fri/sat. dropping the wednesday session once summer sailing starts up again. comments/ critisms (excuse sp) welcome ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: Mopps
Date Posted: 02 Dec 07 at 7:26pm
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what he said but for a trapeze boat and with less time on my hands please x ------------- I am the boatwhore B14 694 |
Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:26am
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If you are doing heavy weights, don't over do it, otherwise you'll never put the muscle on. Aim for a few days rest between big weight session, so go for 3 session a week. Also, aim for 3 minutes rest between sets, so you can fully recover. If this takes to long, then do some super sets, which is training one muscle group, then immediatley training another whilst the first recovers. For example, bicep curls or preacher curls, followed by tricep dips. This way you can finish the session far quicker. I'm aiming to post some fitness routines etc on my blog, so if you have any questions, post a comment and I'll get back to you. (by the way, I've got a degree in sports science so I'm not just making stuff up.) www.visser49erracing.wordpress.com ------------- Online sailing: For when you just can't get to the club: http://visser49erracing.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/online-sailing/ - Visser49erracing |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:36am
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Back in the day when building muscle was my thing (i gave up sailing for a while) we alternated between heavy weights and light ones! More reps with light weights Tones the muscle, less reps with heavier weights builds muscle! Lifting the heaviest weight in the gym ain't going to do anything unless you are dong the right number of reps wit it! ------------- |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 9:39am
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Tom, Take it easy on the weight gain. Firstly in the 300 you can gain on the light air swings/doenwinds what you lose on the heavy air roundabouts/downwind. Also you are only 18 - and that means you may not have starterd to build proper muscle mass yet. If you take me as an example at 18 and a few months I weighed 10.5 stone (67kg) and was 5 11". I did a course involving intense physical activity for 4 weeks (ie no fat gained at all) and at the end weighed 74kg. By another 6 months later (and having over increased my beer consumption!) I was 85kg. So it may just happen for you - as long as you stay reasonably fit and keep the right food intake.
Matt |
Posted By: RyanV49er
Date Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 12:35pm
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Yup, you need to be aiming for between 4 to 8 reps (with the last 2 reps being a struggle) if you are aiming at putting on muscle. If you can get it so that you get to 8 reps, and physically can't do any more (i.e. to failure) then you'll be putting on muscle much quicker. Aim for around 3 sets of 6 to 8 reps on all major muscle groups, with lots of protein intake afterwards. ------------- Online sailing: For when you just can't get to the club: http://visser49erracing.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/online-sailing/ - Visser49erracing |