has this already been discussed but really what a load of rubbish. There is only 1 way an albacore to manage 22 knots and that would be surfing down the wave of a tsunami!!! We were happy to get just over 20 in our 49er on flat water in 18knots of wind.

This is even more ridiculas than the blaze...

heres the link... http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/speedfreaks/?s=3&USFN=154 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/speedfreaks/?s=3&USFN=1 54

deleted see other thread.

Hmmm, my thoughts are on this thread...shall we keep it in one place?

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3497&PN=1&TPN=2 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3 497&PN=1&TPN=2

Time for a protest hearing?????? Or does the RYA charter apply and we go to mediation???

Come on Mr Jardine what do you think???

I have solved this issue of albacore master boat speed obviously the boat has been race prepared nicely wet and dried but i could easily hit 22 knots in most boats in the right conditions

the problem all the cherubs have had is inland sailing quite cleary your never going to get any speed up at all on a lake due to the lack of surfing style waves and the biggy favourable tide blast through plas menai on a ripping spring tide 6-7 knots favourable tide all you got to get is a comfortable 15-16 knots of boat speed and hey presto badda boom 22 knots on ya GPS

From the Albacore class website....    (definitely not a 18footer).

http://www.albacore.org.uk/results/2007/internationals2007.htm - http://www.albacore.org.uk/results/2007/internationals2007.h tm

Looks it as if the Albacore's almost had  several contenders for the speed-freaks.  Guess it must have been windy F5-6 etc...! 

good on them.

...Been great reading this discussion... some great comments/opinions!!

- just because, its not got  trapeezes and not made of carbon and doesn't have an assymetric kite, it doesn't mean it's no good/fast (i.e.  skiffers).  

/fin

PS - I am a skiffer as well.

Andy - to be fair, I am relatively new to skiff  - been messing around on a 5000 this  summer - so don't take my crticisms too seriously!

In a blow, at the moment  I think I'd  prefer the Albacore -  spent some very wet days this year being blown to bits on the L5K (it was : F4-5 gusting F6!).  may be not the  best training conditions!

fin

Without putting a dampner on things, as was mentioned in the other post about the blaze at bala, surely this just means there was a blip in the GPS in the area rather than the boat hitting these speeds.  Especially as all of the high speeds were in the same place over a relatively short amount of time.

or it could just be the problem with gps all together the amercians made and own it

" I've been given the gift of time... Oh wow i was given the gift of space last christmas, maybe we could get together and form a contium?..."

Friends

Let's all lobby the RYA to get the PY dropped to....oh about 780?

Sounds fair to me.

You say you hit 19.8kts - was that a peak speed, care to show us the GPS plot ?

These are the comments from another (capable) Brit who was in the Albacore Worlds.

"I've no idea.  The two fastest times were the past and present world champions.  The gps units were provided by a 3rd party who supplies the unit, not the boat owners, so they were about as independent as they get.  It was very windy F6 I guess and there were some reasonable waves, although not huge as it was off the land.  The tide was never very strong, less than 0.5 knots.  We didn't get out to the race area where it was the windiest as we were turned back for the abandonment of the race before we got there.  I helmed upwind on the way back and it was pretty tough going."

If they're doing it regularly, then maybe 780's a bit generous.

Any advance on 750?

Hi Guys,

The discussion is interesting and more civil than some that have been read on another website. In the B14s we now have several Velocitek S10s and though they require regular battery changes, do give us accurate information. WE are also running Garmin Foretrex 201s and find they are also providing good data. The processing of the info is very easy via the velocitek unit. We raced last weekend in a force 5 gusting 6 and our top sustained speeds across the fleet was 18.9 knots on both types of units.

Last year we had a sustained speed of 26.2 knots at the Grafham Grand Prix and 28.1 knots with tide at the Starcross Steamer (see the B14 Readycrest) in the B14 calender on fotoboat. Usually bad reports occur due to the wrong placing of the GPS butsometimes you can get a spike but this is incredibly rare on the water. If indeed the Albacore speed is correct, it will be near impossible to beat due to the boat's handicap but if the wind is up and water flat enough (chop/swell waves slow hte baot down at top speed as sailing through over them), the B14 Class Association will have a crack at sneaking the top slot. Second last year to the RS300 gybing down a wave and clocking 23.1 knots from its boom.

Anyway a great bit of fun and self publicity and should be take in the light hearted manner it is meant to be.

Bye for now - Barnsie - B14 768 - Seavolution