kit built boats
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Topic: kit built boats
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Subject: kit built boats
Date Posted: 20 Jul 07 at 11:12pm
| looking at building my own boat preferbly for not running into thousands and thousands of pounds. Looking at small sailing boats or cats anyone any recomendations please sean x |
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 20 Jul 07 at 11:26pm
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Mirror? Fireball? Signet? ( One just been made by a member at my club, looks awsome! ) ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 21 Jul 07 at 12:03am
the signet looks really nice 
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 21 Jul 07 at 12:42am
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Signets sailed across the Channel as their class launch publicity stunt. I wonder if the Sunday Times remembers them?! ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 21 Jul 07 at 5:48am
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The Mirror is the numerous kit built boat, many ten of thousands have been successfully assembled and there is wealth of advice around. He is details of the much admired boat that was at the 2005 Dinghy Show This boat has gone onto to enjoy a very successful race career Kits are available for £795 from Duffins Quite a bit on the Mirror site www.ukmirrorsailing.com ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 21 Jul 07 at 10:01am
| Does duffins have a web address |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 22 Jul 07 at 12:50pm
| The cheapest i can see the Mirror for is 1025 with sails or 1700 with sails thru the following link http://www.trident-uk.com/shop/acatalog/Wooden_Mirror_Kits.h tml |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 22 Jul 07 at 1:32pm
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Duffins don't have a web site Duffin Duffin is certainly the cheaspest Mirror kit in the UK ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: landlocked
Date Posted: 22 Jul 07 at 5:25pm
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i think you can get a streaker in kit form somwher but can't remember which builder might be Northwest boats or Butler boats
------------- Cherub 2535 "Eggbert the Nasty" Soon to be for sale PM for Details Cherub 2657 "Slippery When Wet" Don't sail fly Cherub |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 22 Jul 07 at 6:43pm
| Im slowly leaning towards the mirror as it seems one of the most commonest out there. Silly question time now but it has to be done how easy are these to build what sort of skills do you require to build one as i have basic skills in woodwork and mechcanical things and a garage (dad can i please ) do i require specailist tools or simple toolkit do any health safty precaution (it had to be asked). any general kit boat builders websites witch i can grow some skills off ta sean |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 12:46am
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The Mirror was designed to be home built with a minimum of specialist skills and tools. Unlike many boats you don't need a mold. The panels are stitched together with copper wire to get the shape and then glassfibre tape is used to make the final join. A couple of ply baulkheads then help retain the shape and the deck does the rest. There are no frames and so the construction is quite light and strong. I've owned one and thought it a very responsive little boat. |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 6:59am
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The Mirror must be one of the easiest boats to build and has helped many tens of thousands get afloat in a very satisfying manner, and the finished boats sails very well. Here is the build diary of an Australian Mirror : There are plenty of people around who have built Mirrors at home who would be more than happy to share advice. ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 11:50am
And DON'T build it in the dining room before realising that it won't fit through the door or window. As happened to a friend of my father in 1978. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 23 Jul 07 at 4:49pm
| you not heard of an angle grinder english dave and no one will moan in the house theyll be too high on glue fumes |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 2:16pm
| my dads got the idea that he wants to just build a boat from a set of plans not kit parts just a set of plans and instrusions is this possiable |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 7:35pm
hmmmmm, how long before the "c" word appears? ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: sailingnewbie
Date Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 7:43pm
| explain mike please |
Posted By: landlocked
Date Posted: 24 Jul 07 at 10:22pm
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you'll enentually get the feeble attempt at a joke once you've hung around on this forum long enough
------------- Cherub 2535 "Eggbert the Nasty" Soon to be for sale PM for Details Cherub 2657 "Slippery When Wet" Don't sail fly Cherub |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 25 Jul 07 at 9:49am
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it was merely a cheap shot at the cherub mob. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 25 Jul 07 at 12:14pm
Most definitely - people do it all the time. The big advantage of kits with plywood boats is some of the more tricky wood bashing is done for you. The most troublesome is probably the scarf joints, and that's a job that either needs special tools or a fair bit of practice. The scarf joints are the special taper cut edges that enable you to join two sheets of ply without lumps and bumps. When it comes to home building boats in foam and glass then kits are of minimal advantage and no-one bothers, although the classes that do that sort of thing pass building jigs around. |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 29 Jul 07 at 10:45pm
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At the moment you can't buy Mirror plans, although I think this is under discussion - Simon?
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 30 Jul 07 at 8:36am
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Yes that is correct you can only build a Mirror from a kit supplied by a licenced kit manufacturer. This has given several advantages and explains why the Mirror is the most numerous home built dinghy :
Nevertheless as Hannah points out, there is a working party exploring opening up the rules to allow Mirrors to be built from plans, there are both major pros and cons, so not sure how far this proposal will go. ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 21 Aug 07 at 10:03pm
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Just seen that there were 15 Signets at their Nats - good for them. (I'd wondered if they'd died as a class) ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 22 Aug 07 at 12:51pm
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Contender? There is a healthy debate at the moment in the email group about wether a Contender with Chines would measure and if it did would it be quicker. I personally think it would look like a streaker on steroids but apparently there is one racing the in the famous Garda worlds video and it looks ok, but I haven't found it yet. ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |