RS Feva
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Topic: RS Feva
Posted By: sailor_420
Subject: RS Feva
Date Posted: 10 Jun 07 at 8:29pm
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Hi, my sister is looking for a new boat (well second hand). The first thing that sprung to mind was the feva! How good is this boat? It looks pretty good fun! I think the XL rig would be best. How good is this boat for a beginner? The club has a few for the beginners to use so im guessing quite good for beginners. Oh yeah and any ideas on the crew weight? Any alternatives? Thanks in advance |
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Posted By: chrisjc123
Date Posted: 10 Jun 07 at 8:59pm
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cant comment on the feva. but another alternative is a good old topper? great little boats im sure most if not all people have sailed one. cant go wrong with one ------------- Vortex 1006 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 Jun 07 at 10:53pm
| The Feva is a *much* better two hander than the Topper though. |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 10:32am
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the XL rig is a must for the feva because otherwise it wont go upwind. my sister and i sailed one for two years untill we got lasers last winter and we enjoyed the boat. good for people to learn in and a reasonable circuit if you want to be competitive. one thing though, dont get too old a hull because they fall in half at the back. when we were sailing fevas i was about 65kg and my sister was 50ish. i think. we were too big for the boat and needed force 4+ before it got interesting. the smallest people sailing it looked like they should be in oppies. but its great fun on a really windy day (25-30 knots ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
)Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 3:15pm
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I had a go in a Feva in our recent cadet week...I think the boat was overweight with just me in it! looks like a good little boat though (for a carrier bag recycling project). Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 3:44pm
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Everything is quicker than a Cadet, there's a one-legged duck in my local park that's quicker than a Cadet. But I cut my teeth in Cadets and I won't have a bad word said about them. So there. ------------- English Dave http://www.ballyholme.com - Ballyholme Yacht Club (You'd think I'd be better at it by now) Hurricane 5.9 SX RS700 |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 4:12pm
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How about a Mirror? Stiffer and probably lighter (?) than a feva, very good racecircuit and training, also they carry weight quite well, and are good for one to one training. Depends how old/big your sister is reallly. Otherwise toppers are good if she doesn't want to/have anyone to sail with regularly. Probably best to see what her friends/other people her age at your club are sailing, if there are lots of fevas then it'd be good for racing/advice. ------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 11 Jun 07 at 10:54pm
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Of all the "new" small classes, the Feva looks like it is the one that will be a long term sucess, so you are unlikely to loose much if you buy one, play for a while and then decide to get something else as you get bigger/want something faster. Mirrors are also good youth boats, but if you are handicap racing, the Feva will be at least nearer the rest of the fleet on the water. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 9:20am
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Sailor_420 One of the key factors is weight of the sailors, as mentioned the Mirror carries a wide range of weight very well, with teams of 75Kg to 120Kg being competitive. This gives good room for growth Our new world champions Anna MacKenzie (18) started in Mirrors at 9 years old. The Mirror is also a great feeder for the 420, most of the skills are highly transferable. From what I have seen of the Feva, it seems to have quite a narrow weight band, for the younger/smaller juniors it is too big/powerful in anything other than light winds, then the sailors quickly out grow the boat. My observation is sailors typically only spend a year in a Feva. Where are you based, I am sure we can get your sister out in a modern Mirror ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 9:31am
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sorry simon but the narrow weight band thing is not true. whe we were in the feva squad we were one of the biggest teams at about 120kg ish and the smallest teams were very small, the one limiting factor with the feva is the need of a small/flexible/both crew because to get uner the boom without sitting on the mainsheet isnt easy. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 10:14am
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My comments are based on observations of when I have seen Fevas out in different conditions. At a recent Zone Champs the wind was gusting 20-25 knots, the Fevas typically sailed by 14/15 year olds started first then Mirrors with 10-14 year olds, then Cadets. This was an event aimed at juniors in their first championship season. Many of the Feva sailors were clearly struggling with the conditions and were over taken by most of the Mirror fleet and even some of the Cadets who started ten minutes behind them For small juniors the Feva is a large boat, 10% bigger than a Mirror, and critically 40% heavier with a much more powerful rig. Classes like Cadets and Mirrors also have very adaptable rigs allowing you to set them up to suit the conditions and sailors weight. ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 11:37am
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yeah the feva's rig is defineatly not the easiest to depower. but if you are refering to last years southern zones then the wind was more like 25+ and that was very, very fun, you just sit out harder. is that figure of 40% the rig orthe hull? id be suprised if there was that much difference in weight in the rigs. one very definate advantage the feva has over the miror are the nice and comfy rolled side decks for hiking from as opposed to the mirrors little planks. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 5:47pm
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As a matter of fact the mirror and the cadet were both other considerations! There is a large cadet fleet but they sail in the youth handicap so it doesnt matter. Is the mirror faster than the cadet? Are all mirrors rear main? The Mirror is a great boat if you can find a decent one. How much is a good one, with spinny? Thanks! |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 6:55pm
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These are the Two RYA Junior Pathway Doublehanded Classes, so makes sense they are on your list, even if your sister is not interested in the squads etc they have been chosen by the RYA for all the right reason
Yes and a slightly bigger
Centre mains are now allowed :
Good starter boats are around £500, competitive race boats start approx £1200. As with all popular classes they hold they value incredibly well, you can normally get you money back at resale.
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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 7:13pm
Same "Right Reasons" as the Star and the Yngling? ( And dare I say it .. The Oppie! ) ------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 7:34pm
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not really because people can actually afford cadets mirrors, and oppies although oppies are becoming ludicrously expensive for what they are. just the classes havent changed in a long time. also its not the RYA who selected the Yngling and the Star, we have the ISAF to thank for that. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 7:59pm
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Thats good news because she hasent quite got the cooridination for rear as shes pretty new. Also she will race in the youth handicap so a newer mirror would do better than cadets (even if she doesnt beat them). Its probably either a mirror or a cadet which is what i leant in. Ive notaced not all are gaff rigged anymore aswel. I think the budget is about 1500 ish (a little less would be better). What sort of boat would that get? (sail number, construction etc) Thanks again!!! |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 10:13pm
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I find aft main actually easier to teach and i prefer it to sail because you don't end up steering behind your back and getting the tiller extension stuck on your arm/back...
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 1:15pm
You are now allowed a Bermuda Rig There are several good race boats with lots of kit on the website within your budget. These will be wood but should be epoxy coated so strong, stiff and durable. Foam sandwich boats will be typically over £2000 http://www.ukmirrorsailing.com - http://www.ukmirrorsailing.com ------------- http://www.sailracer.org" rel="nofollow - www.sailracer.org Online Sailing Results, GPS Tracking & Event Management |
Posted By: sailor_420
Date Posted: 16 Jun 07 at 2:15pm
| I think we may get a cadet There is a decent sized fleet and they're cheap for a good one so it'd be a better idea. I'd probably helm for a year and then give it to her to helm in when shes comfortable. Anyone know any for sale in the north? |