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Topic: How Do I Make a Website?
Posted By: Chew my RS
Subject: How Do I Make a Website?
Date Posted: 02 May 07 at 7:07pm

I have absolutely no idea.  Can anyone tell me how to make a free (or v cheap) website, preferably with a .org.uk suffix?  Is there a good programme on the net anyone can recommend?

Thanks for your help! 




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Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 02 May 07 at 8:55pm

First you need to register a domain ie http://www.redback.biz - www.redback.biz

Then you need some space on a server.

Now design a few pages and that's best done with some decent software.

Then upload it to the space.

Matrixxhosting will help you register a domain and host your site on their servers very cheaply and reliably so go to http://www.matrixxhosting.com/ - http://www.matrixxhosting.com/

NetObjectsFusion 9 is a program for creating sites and comes free on the cover disk of June's PC Pro.

NetObjects may do the uploading (its called FTP) for you but if not Internet Explorer can be used.

That's it - good luck.



Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 02 May 07 at 9:02pm

Then again, you can ask me and I'll give you a very reasonable quote, get everything organised, optimised and registered, AND update as and when required! Wink

 

 

 



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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 03 May 07 at 1:01pm
I use streamlinenet.co.uk for my domain and hosting and havent found anywhere cheeper for the kind of package I get (vitualy unlimited everything)
The customer service can be a little slow but I very rarely have any problems with the actual hosting and would highly recomend them


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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 03 May 07 at 1:09pm

BNS is very good.  Classy bit of fluff. Nice clean style.  You could do alot worse.  And, you could have a bilingual site if you so desired to attract those big stylee sailing opprtunities in France.  (No I don't owe her money).

 



Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 03 May 07 at 2:42pm
Yes http://www.streamline.net/ - streamline.net are very good and cheap for what you get, I also use them.
http://www.clearthinkingcreative.co.uk/ - clearthinkingcreative.co.uk You get FREE domain name's and ownership as part of the package but only on, .co.uk / .net /.biz but I don't think they cover .org.

Depending on your email package - i.e if you are with BT or similar you will normally get some hosting space free.

This is the type of space where my site for the Cherub I co funded / sailed:

http://uk.geocities.com/cherub.publicity@btinternet.com/index.html - http://uk.geocities.com/cherub.publicity@btinternet.com/inde x.html

but as you can see you tend to get a iffy long URL and the bandwidth is small and can mean people can't see the site from time to time because to many people have accessed your site, so don't all click at once!

As for programmes if you run a Apple Mac - Freeway is a very good bit of software which is easy to use and cheap, you can buy it in packs, starting from £49.

http://www.softpress.com - http://www.softpress.com

As for PC. You shouldn't be using that junk anyway!

you can also use a web based programme like DokuWiki - the UK Cherub site uses this...

http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki%3ADokuWiki -  http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki%3ADokuWiki

With a few HTML / gif's graphics to spice things up
http://www.uk-cherub.org/ -
http://www.uk-cherub.org/


Hope that helps



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Posted By: Chew my RS
Date Posted: 03 May 07 at 7:42pm

Hmmm,

Thanks for all that.  I've had a look, but I'm not totally confident I understand what I'm supposed to do.  Hopefully I'll get there, but if not I might get in touch BNS!  



Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 12:37am
I've just registered a domain by going to Matrixxhosting it was a a .co.uk and cost £9.50 for 2 years.  I can't recommend the simplicty of it more.


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 12:42am

A site can be implemented just using Notepad, but without modern tools it may be cheap but it is hard work.  Here's one I did in the mid 90's when there were only a few thousand sites in the world.

http://www.avtech2000.co.uk - www.avtech2000.co.uk

 



Posted By: Granite
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 1:23pm

You need to buy/regester a domain name then associate it with some space on a server there are loads of sites that will sell you one and the server space as well you can probably get a simple site going for about £20 for two years.

Some of these sites have tools to let you build a site using their templates but these are restrictive and a bit rubbish.

The next stage up from this is to use some software as described above to make your site most of them will let you drag and drop pictues and text and format the whole thing. You can then upload those files to the space on the server you have previously bought. Most web authoring software has tools to help you do that.

The trouble is that you largely get what you pay for with web authering tools and the code that most of them seem to produce is confusing and not standards compliant. This means that your site will look different depending on the browser being used to look at it.

Personaly I prefer to hand code using a text editor with syntax highlighting, that way I know which bit does what in the whole site but then I started playing with websites in the early 90's

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 3:03pm
Agreed: Real webmasters use a text editor [grin]. Coupled with good use of css and a means of replicating navigation etc content between pages (php is great for this) it really isn't that hard, and it makes it very easy to keep sites consistent and standards compliant. But this isn't the way you want to go for a first website!


Posted By: Atum Bom
Date Posted: 07 May 07 at 9:06am

Free text editor with syntax highlighting:

http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ - http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

This is my tool of choice for web editing. Small download so it won't break your computer.



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http://www.uk-cherub.org - www.uk-cherub.org



Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 11 May 07 at 10:08am

One of the best things you can do is have a good book to hand. Most of the O'Reilly stuff is good. I rate "Web Design in a nutshell" as a great reference.

nVu is a freeware download and it's quite good but Frontpage is easier to use and Dreamweaver is the dog's bs. But once you have got the hand of it all you'll mainly be writing it all out longhand as it makes for neater code. You'll still be better off with a webdesign package than notepad as it will colour code all your tags for easy debugging.

Make sure you check for multi browser compatability. If it works on IE and Firefox you have got 99% of your audience.

Build up slowly. Start with pure html, then add a little javascript and start moving all your style statements out of the html tags and into seperate css files. php is a doddle if your are used to other programming languages (C, C+) but you won't need it straight away.

Don't be afraid to use frames and tables. You can achieve the same effects with css when you get going and frames in particular get a right old sl*gging from the community. But they are an easy way to get going.

Have a look at your favourite websites and try and decide why they are so good. Be careful when adding graphics that you don't make the page slow to load. Even with high-speed broadband this is still important.

And have fun.



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(You'd think I'd be better at it by now)

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