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Topic: earth race
Posted By: les5269
Subject: earth race
Date Posted: 18 Mar 07 at 4:38pm

Anybody seen this? It looks really good, but it's gone wrong already!

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/earthrace-p1.php - http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/earthrace-p1.php

Seen that the carbon propellors are breaking down already so they are "cruising" to panama!



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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 18 Mar 07 at 6:25pm

This looks like a modernised version of the Cable and Wireless Trimaran tha was trying to do something (and succeeded) very similar.

 



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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 18 Mar 07 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by Contender443

This looks like a modernised version of the Cable and Wireless Trimaran tha was trying to do something (and succeeded) very similar.

I had forgotten about the C&W boat (she set the power boat circumnavigation record in 1998)- seem to remember it coming up for sale a while ago



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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 19 Mar 07 at 12:00pm
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/i-tried-to-save-him-earthrace-skipper/2007/03/19/1174152933869.html - Click here

Does'nt sound like good news to me.


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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 19 Mar 07 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by les5269

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/earthrace-p1.php -

Seen that the carbon propellors are breaking down already so they are "cruising" to panama!

why not just have a metal prop like normal? it must be stronger than a carbon one and on a boat that size it wont make much difference to the overall weight will it?

oh dear sounds like its over already then if they've hit someone.



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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 19 Mar 07 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by mike ellis

Originally posted by les5269

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/earthrace-p1.php -

Seen that the carbon propellors are breaking down already so they are "cruising" to panama!

why not just have a metal prop like normal? it must be stronger than a carbon one and on a boat that size it wont make much difference to the overall weight will it?

oh dear sounds like its over already then if they've hit someone.


On a boat that size there would be a noticeable weight differnce. Plus the prop would have a better rake at better speeds etc


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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 20 Mar 07 at 3:26pm
we studyed that lastyear a bit.  and the cable and wireless one just sits in the itchen.  i have gone under the wings a few times in the powerboat while towing picos.

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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 20 Mar 07 at 5:50pm
The amazing thing about this whole powered circum-navigation thing is that after all the power and effort they throw into these powerboats, Ellen was only a margin behind the current record holder Cable and Wireless. Can't remember off the top of my head but think it was only a day or two difference. Carbon props help greatly with manouverability and there is the advantage of if you hit something you only write off the prop instead of the gearbox and possibly the engine. Plymouth Uni have done a fair bit of work with Composite props and they do have lots of advantages. Comercial and Naval Vessels are increasingly starting to realise the gains at the moment.

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Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 20 Mar 07 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

The amazing thing about this whole powered circum-navigation thing is that after all the power and effort they throw into these powerboats, Ellen was only a margin behind the current record holder Cable and Wireless.

The beauty of not having to carry fuel! It's a shame it's ended this way though.


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Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 20 Mar 07 at 10:05pm
We all need energy efficient lightbulbs but its fine to go charging off round the planet in a dirty great powerboat! Imagine how much more fun you could have sailing it!

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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 21 Mar 07 at 8:41am
Originally posted by FireballNeil

We all need energy efficient lightbulbs but its fine to go charging off round the planet in a dirty great powerboat! Imagine how much more fun you could have sailing it!


They will probably claim it is carbon neutral because is uses bio-diesel....Still as has already been pointed out Ellen was only marginally slower without a dirty great marine engine in sight...

However do remember that sails cannot be that environmentally friendly to make given the materials that are used these days (same with hulls). However once built we don't pollute....

Paul


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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 21 Mar 07 at 10:41am
Originally posted by CurlyBen

It's a shame it's ended this way though.

Especially for the poor b**** they killed...


Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 21 Mar 07 at 5:15pm

Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

The amazing thing about this whole powered circum-navigation thing is that after all the power and effort they throw into these powerboats, Ellen was only a margin behind the current record holder Cable and Wireless. Can't remember off the top of my head but think it was only a day or two difference. Carbon props help greatly with manouverability and there is the advantage of if you hit something you only write off the prop instead of the gearbox and possibly the engine. Plymouth Uni have done a fair bit of work with Composite props and they do have lots of advantages. Comercial and Naval Vessels are increasingly starting to realise the gains at the moment.

i stand corrected



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Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 21 Mar 07 at 5:51pm
I think it's maybe a little harsh to say "they killed" Jim - the impression I got from the article was that they hit a small, unlit boat at night, which would suggest it's not necessarily plain carelessness or poor watchkeeping. I wouldn't lay all the blame at their door until the details are clear. Sorry if that's not what you meant but it's the way it came across to me.

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