My Boat’s better than yours!!!
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Topic: My Boat’s better than yours!!!
Posted By: lozza
Subject: My Boat’s better than yours!!!
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:06am
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After Speedygonad's cage rattling thread, lets have a thread about why certain boats are better than others. Post a boat that is better than the previous post's boat with ONE reason of why only! I'll start off: LASER PS: Legitimate reasons only please, no personal vendetta's about the people who sail the boats!! I don't sail lasers either!!! edit for spelling ------------- Life's a reach, then you gybe |
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:45am
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Topper - It's not a laser Sorry, Someone had to do it Solution - Laser for the average person ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:00am
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Buzz - Can have an extra person ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk">  BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: Adam.s
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:12am
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RS800-Proper twin trapez boat ------------- |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:13am
Yeah but who would admit to be the average person?
no one on this forum, for sure... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:19am
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49er - proper proper twin trapeze boat ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:38am
Can you define the "boat" bit of that statement please?
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:50am
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A boat is a craft or vessel designed to float on, and provide transport over water. ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:56am
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So what's the connection between those nouns and a 49'er ? And Wikipedia It doesn't say anything about 49'ers and RS800's on those links. |
Docu-fiction in action.
. I think you may have got a bit lost on this one..........Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 10:59am
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I think I have too, i am going to go back to bed I wish i still have another two hours at college ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:04am
Bummer....... |
Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:13am
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Back on topic: L5000 More laidback fleet and no olympic sailors to beat you each week ------------- Life's a reach, then you gybe |
Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:19am
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A Class
Elegance
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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:29am
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Topper - Easier to rig ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:51am
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Contender Laser for real men and women edited so not to upset BnS
------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:53am
Im wondering how long it will be before someones brave enough to mention the 'c' word and face the onslaught....  ------------- |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:55am
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Osprey..... They are nearly as good looking and classy as me .....no sniggering in the corner there that boy....Turtle is it?
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 11:58am
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Too late you numpty, you've just done it !!!! Noooooo............ just resist !! It's not fair as they fall for it every time. |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 12:17pm
Thank you!
RS200 - to take the little one sailing and not scare her (I'm talking about our soon-to-be 5-year-old, not Contender443!) ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 12:29pm
Bar steward !! For once I can honestly say that the Opsrey is an older design than me..... but as I say........ Oh yes, BnS, that's pretty harsh on Contender 443. Don't try and qualify it after the event by blaming your little-ist girlie.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:01pm
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International Canoe
because... of everything really.. for instance - waterline beam is for wimps... - stability is for the second rate... - sliding seat is *so* much more efficient than wings and wires |
Posted By: WildWood
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:21pm
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Enterprise... because they have nice blue sails?!?!? How does this work again? ------------- |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:22pm
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Pacer's sails are darker blue; does that give me more points? ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: WildWood
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:27pm
I guess so  ------------- |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:32pm
I feel a starch advert coming on here.... Hey, how about the Redwing because their sails are red.
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:39pm
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I would like to back the Topper as well, because you can sail it up a shingle beach with no damage to the boat (and minimal damage to the helm - I'm a living proof) and scare paddling children, passing dogs and waddling joggers in the process! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Now we're getting somewhere!Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:48pm
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E-Scow Topper on Steroids ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: david wilkins
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 1:48pm
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National Twelve (the true home of the T as a class flag!) - responsiveness ------------- David Wilkins MR3613 |
Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 2:04pm
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Merlin - something for the crew downwind. ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 2:04pm
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Blaze - the best bit is that it is no longer a Topper...(must remove those nasty stickers) oh and anyone can sail one in stupid winds and survive the gybes.... ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 3:51pm
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B14? Blaze for pepole with friends (and a big ass kite) ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 4:30pm
505 Did someone mention a big ass kite ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: iwsmithuk
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 4:40pm
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VORTEX. Cos 2 hulls are better than one!!! Ducks and runs for cover.................. |
Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 4:54pm
Cosair, cos 3 hulls are better yet ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 5:20pm
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international canoe. cause it is only half a hull really ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 5:52pm
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moth... if you gonna go skinny on the waterline you might aswell do it propperly....
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 6:19pm
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Phantom. If your going to have a single hander, at least make sure it can carry a full size person ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 6:22pm
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2.4. sailing in comfort(sitting in a reclined chair) ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 6:55pm
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Osprey, talk about armchair comfort, those boys get there pipes & slippers out between races ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: Hobbo
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 7:02pm
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Never seen the slippers, have seen the pipe.
------------- Contender GBR 362 Osprey 1318 - IVplay SSC |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 7:04pm
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OK because i sail one and because its not a laser ------------- |
Posted By: Charlie
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 7:14pm
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Finn cos it gives fat bastards something to sail, and plenty of rope to play with.
------------- Finn GBR 657 - Blown It Laser 164635 Planet Earth: 30% Land, 70% race course! |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 7:24pm
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Mmmmm.... Inhaul......
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:06pm
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FD. More string to play with. And more. And still more
And then some more ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:08pm
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anything but a laser- cause knees are for life ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:13pm
49er is just a 14 impersination along with a cherub Runs and hides------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:16pm
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14s for ever. not many classes can say they are still arround and top for the last 80 odd years
------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:24pm
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etchells still has less strings than a dutchman Still................
Dragons. I dont know why there cooler but they are. Maybe cos you need more money than God to race one ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
but they are very tweaky. Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:36pm
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j class- nuff said
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 8:47pm
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Mirror - just generally lovely
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:31pm
Vareo ... RS200 for those with no friends 
------------- Vareo - 149 "Secrets" http://www.TandyUKServers.co.uk" rel="nofollow - TandyUK Servers |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:39pm
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Feva - For those Little kids that want the fun of the Big Boys ------------- |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:55pm
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RS 200 for people who haven't realised they should've bought a Vareo ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Mar 07 at 9:58pm
Canoes have been around over 100 and weren't crap right through the 70s and 80s! Actually the 14 now has 100 years of history as well, after it was taken over by the Australian elder brother... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 10 Mar 07 at 7:12am
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still amazing tho
------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 10 Mar 07 at 6:57pm
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Boss is my second choice, what else can you sail that costs less then £500 and goes that fast??? ------------- |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 10 Mar 07 at 7:18pm
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A s***ty Festa ------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 10 Mar 07 at 11:18pm
Good comeback ------------- Josh Preater http://www.bu22.co.uk"> BUZZING IS FUN
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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 11 Mar 07 at 6:02pm
Back to boats - a Blue Peter ------------- |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 11 Mar 07 at 6:06pm
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dilli um pom pom da da du de da da du.( very bad blue peter theme tune) oh and a skipper 13 ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 11 Mar 07 at 8:27pm
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Puffin ------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 11 Mar 07 at 8:32pm
So you sail these ? ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 11 Mar 07 at 9:42pm
One of mine leaked so much that driving it was a bit like sailing, and it smelled like a wet suit ------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 14 Mar 07 at 9:28pm
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musto skiff, it looks so nice ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Helz
Date Posted: 14 Mar 07 at 9:34pm
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A vago, they are really good for learning to trapeze (If you can stay upright and not end up doing the splits down the boat.) ------------- luv Helz |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 11:22am
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On the contrary, I've heard they're awful to trapeze from that deep cockpit. A former Vortex sailor at our club found it almost impossible for some reason. Surely you find the 29'er easier to trapeze, Helz (apart from the wobbliness). |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 11:41am
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Better than a Vago, RS 500..... same price but much better boat, however, in my opinion better than both, V3000 ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 11:52am
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Helz, whats your experiance with trapeze boats other than the vago?
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Posted By: Helz
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 1:36pm
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I trapezed on a fireball and a laser 3000 as well as a vago. ------------- luv Helz |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 2:38pm
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RS700 because you can afford a second hand one unlike a Musto.
------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 2:46pm
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Vortex Even more stable, which is better news if you have a rip in your drysu... wait, vortex? Forgive me father for I have sinned... ------------- |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 2:48pm
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Wetsuit - becasue if you get a hole in one you still stay warm. ( who made these rules up! ) ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 2:52pm
F16 - beacuse it's a proper fast. ( 10 hail Mary's for you ) ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: lozza
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 3:25pm
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Int 14 Proper fast too and cheaper dinghy park fees ------------- Life's a reach, then you gybe |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 4:23pm
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Hydrofoiling 18ft skiff - only thing dafter than an Ultra 30!! ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Helz
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 4:27pm
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It isn't daft. It sounds like fun to me. ------------- luv Helz |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 4:32pm
Errr..... V40! ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 6:08pm
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Hydro skiff just looks dangrous to me, when it lands its one hell of a bang, not gracefull like the moth lol ------------- |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 6:20pm
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Think if you were to sail the foiling 18 and the normal 18 hard, the normal 18 would be miles ahead. The videos of the foiling skiff look quick but is it that quick for an 18? Plus when the 18 gets going, hardly any of the hull is in the water and you can go for more powerful sails that don't need to be cut to aid the boat when foiling. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 7:11pm
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[QUOTE=49erGBR735HSC] Think if you were to sail the foiling 18 and the
normal 18 hard, the normal 18 would be miles ahead. The videos of the foiling skiff look quick but is it that quick for an 18? Plus when the 18 gets going, hardly any of the hull is in the water and you can go for more powerful sails that don't need to be cut to aid the boat when foiling.[/ QUOTE] Thats what they said when the foiler moths first started appearing... |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 7:59pm
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I'm just not convinced and will be very interesting to see the foiling 18 compete against a competitive non-foiling 18, if that ever happens. Saying that though, the Hyrdroptere design is quite large in scale and is very successful, but reckon the foiling 18 needs a whole new rig developed with new sail plan to be successful. It works just now as it is but looks like it could be optimised much further. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: landlocked
Date Posted: 15 Mar 07 at 9:02pm
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What about the dc35's they are awesome machines must work on my SPAG ------------- Cherub 2535 "Eggbert the Nasty" Soon to be for sale PM for Details Cherub 2657 "Slippery When Wet" Don't sail fly Cherub |
Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 16 Mar 07 at 7:50pm
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12ft skiff- around the same speed as the 18 and only one crew to shout at if it goes wrong!! ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 16 Mar 07 at 7:58pm
Unless your thinking of a different 'C word' to the one im thinking of, Theres no reason why the daemon should be any different... ------------- |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 16 Mar 07 at 9:08pm
Claimed to be as quick downwind but doubt very much that it's the same case upwind....... ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 16 Mar 07 at 9:44pm
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Or in light airs on any point of sailing. What is the take-off windspeed for Cherubs and 12ft Skiffs, anyone?
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Posted By: Ginger_69
Date Posted: 16 Mar 07 at 10:14pm
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ye i know the 18 is prob faster upwind and prob a bit smoother ride downwind but the 12 just looks fun. Ur right the Daemon isnt going to be any diffrent beacuse their was 2 cherub that came 1st and 2nd in the 12ft national last year! ------------- Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite |