'A' Class Nationals F16 Nations Cup
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Topic: 'A' Class Nationals F16 Nations Cup
Posted By: markp
Subject: 'A' Class Nationals F16 Nations Cup
Date Posted: 24 Feb 07 at 3:03pm
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The Notice of Race for the above event has been posted on the Mumbles Yacht Club website. www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk Please note that there will be one amendment. If the conditions are favorable only three race will be run on Sat 12th May. Race 7 will be a long course = approx 6.5 miles per lap, time duration around 2hrs. This race will count as part of the Nations Cup series for the F16's but will not count for the 'A' Class National Championships. Should the weather conditions prevent the long course race taking place then the current NOR will take effect. ------------- MP*MULTIHULLS The UK F16 Dealer http://www.mp-multihulls.co.uk |
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 24 Feb 07 at 5:41pm
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Mark,
Sounds fantastic. Really looking forward to this event. ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 12:45am
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What ever the weather or course we should have a good time. Maybe the A's should get off there high horse and join in the fun?
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 1:17am
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I'm just looking forward to having the kite up and out on the wire for a few miles on one go ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 7:33pm
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mark p. sorry i am a little confused by your last message. what high horse are the A,s on, i am intending on going to mumbles to have fun do you think i would drive for 9 hours with the intention of having a crap time and then drive for 9 hours to get home again. |
Posted By: redhotchilicat
Date Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 8:20am
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It's ok Oz man judging on my last caravan south with my A I may well use a high horse or even a low one for that matter as it will probably be much more efficient and less prone to breakdowns than the discovery-still managed to have fun though!!!!!!!! ------------- go on you know it makes sense |
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 9:59am
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don't take orses
they got big feet that stand on you
nastty big smelly teeth for biting
and a bit tough when lightly grilled
ps I've seen poor sods walking dugs , who when the dug poops , scoops into a poly bag and drops into their pocket ,
Would like to see orse drivers do same , equiped with a shovel and rucksack !!! ------------- |
Posted By: redhotchilicat
Date Posted: 27 Feb 07 at 8:23am
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Good point ....well argued taking t' bus ------------- go on you know it makes sense |
Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 27 Feb 07 at 11:06pm
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Just to clarify my post I am also slightly confused that a couple of 'A' sailors are willing to shorten a National Championship Series as they don't want a proposed long course race to count. The feed back I've had from the F16's has been very positive in this respect. As Scooby has already confirmed the idea of a long run and subsequent beat is something that is impossible to most pond sailors. Other 'A' sailors thought it would be a welcome break from the standard courses usually sailed at weekend Regattas and thus would set different challenges. Presently there is a real buzz about the 'A' Class Cats, they look like the dogs bits and subsequently a lot of interest is being produced, being a bit more susceptible to a slight change in a racing programme rather than just blanking it straight off as a non starter would IMO also help promote the a Class which is willing to try different ideas. At the end of the day it is a "development" Class. ------------- MP*MULTIHULLS The UK F16 Dealer http://www.mp-multihulls.co.uk |
Posted By: TornadoSi
Date Posted: 28 Feb 07 at 7:34am
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Dont want to get in a Bun fight here but a few points to make clear. We agreed at our AGM (A Class) in October with Mumbles to have a 10 race series at the 07 Nationals with a Medal Race, No mention of a Long Distance race at that time. The NOR States 12 races so if we lose 1 for the Long Distance we will still have 1 more than we were expecting if we dont want to participate in the Long Distance. The Class was asked (last Thursday - all seems a bit lastminute.com to me) its opinions on the Long Distance and those with them expressed them, resulting in a compromise which suits everyone equally. My personal opinion is to keep the long distance from being part of our nationals, i am not against innovations i am looking forward to the medal race So i am assuming that if we are on schedule and the weather is fine the LD will go ahead and not affect the nationals and those that want to do it can so isnt everyone happy ??? ------------- www.northropsails.com |
and sail 2 of the most innovative boats out there but you dont see many (if any ??) cat classes including a long distance race in a serious championship for good reason.Posted By: redhotchilicat
Date Posted: 28 Feb 07 at 8:24am
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Also looking forward to any long distance race including this one however I believe it should be kept separate from a national championship which is a test of course racing rather than endurance racing. On the SNECCA circuit we include the 4" race as 1 of 4 in our traveller series however this could never double up as a national championship. Looking forward to Mumbles whether travelling by high horse, discovery or sheltie pony
Richie. ------------- go on you know it makes sense |
Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 28 Feb 07 at 3:20pm
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couldnt agree with the last two posts more. counting a long distance race towards a nationals trophy says more about the sailors that like the idea than it does about the guys that do not like the idea. Then to say the people that do not agree with you are"on there high horse" and "do not want to have fun" is a bit rich if you ask me. personally if i can sit out the long distance it will give more time in the bar not having fun |
Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 28 Feb 07 at 4:04pm
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OK, I get your point. Please remember this is a long course Not a LONG DISTANCE RACE. The Beat / Run will be under 2.5 miles if we go for a trapezoid the reaches would be approx 1.5 miles long and a total time duration of around 2hrs. It's a great course sailed frequently by the MYC Cats. Tornado's have done the run in under 12 minutes so I hope you can keep yourself away from the bar and will participate in this venture. ------------- MP*MULTIHULLS The UK F16 Dealer http://www.mp-multihulls.co.uk |
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 07 at 1:57pm
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I checked my foretrex after our opening regatta last year , on the sunday when I rembered to reset it and look at it ,I discovered I had sailed 26 miles in two "short Course" windward leeward races coupled with 1 mile there n back to start .
Hate to think how far RHCC sailed whilst overshootin leeward mark a tad ------------- |
Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 12:03am
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If you want to save yourself a little bit of hassle a pre-entry form is available on the Mumbles Yacht Club website: www.mumblesyachtclub. Don't forget he Carlton Hotel have offered reduced rates for competitors and there is less than 3 weeks to go before kick off. ------------- MP*MULTIHULLS The UK F16 Dealer http://www.mp-multihulls.co.uk |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 12:51am
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Mark.
I'll bring the form with me
Will the club be open on Wednesday and Thursday ? Still up for a bit of Pre championship yotting one day ? (and maybe a drink or 10 after ?) Edit; Just pre-entered online - Very slick
and the URL for the Mumbles is http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/ - http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk/
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Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 10:21am
I tweaked the site to be a little clearer about that - it's printed our end so you don't need to - just turn up and sign the declaration on the day. |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 7:47pm
Sailwave,
Being local too; do you fancy a sail Weds or Thurs ? ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 10:17am
I think the 'A''s are a bunch of panzies  .... The N12 Burton Cup ( part of the N12 Nat Champ's ) has to have each leg of the course 1 mile long and consist of at least 4 laps ( 12 miles ), and this from a 12 ft, two man hiking boat. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 12:12pm
Panzies, I doubt it. But perhaps they don't want a long distance race. We might bob around the bay all day trying to cover 30 miles or so, or we might get to the top of the first run, put our kites up and then have a screaming wire kite reach for a few miles. I hope for the latter ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 12:26pm
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Jack
you callin my m8 a pansie ?????
just cos he's got the long flowing locks , don't be fooled , he's descended from Vikings !!
takes balls to fly an A in a blow , the fact they don't want long distance race in their series has nothing to to do with bravado or lack of it ,
but if all sailors were as macho as int 12 sailors where would we be ?
and don't fret - I hear some of foresaid A's are planning to do the Loch Ness Monster 25 miles ea way - long enough ?
ps just incase it don't come across - just yanking yur chain
a fine scottish tradition ------------- |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 12:50pm
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Anybody that sails a 'A' has to be a pansie otherwise they'd sail a Cat that needed you to be built like a brick out house pull up the slipway
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Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 1:14pm
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you callin me a brick outhouse
Nations Cup is shaping up for a good event , A nats too You going to borrow beg or steal a boat for mumbles or Loch Ness ???
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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 7:49pm
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great post from jack. you have to admire the irony of it from a guy that sails a boat, which looks more like patio furniture than a sailing boat. Its a bit like graham norton telling mike tyson that he looks like a poof.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 9:14pm
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Irony... an Australians strong point. And Mike Tyson is a poof he use to beat up women. That remind's me I must chastise my 10 year old for not wanting to learn to sail in anything more extreme than this...  ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: redhotchilicat
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 8:32am
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Dude, came into this all a bit late I see, and don't want to get into a bun fight, even though I'd win, but when did Cap'n Jack trade in the 'Black Pearl' for an arm chair or whatever that is? on the above post.
CHILICAT.......SAILINIG FURTHER AND FASTER THAN YOU.......THATS WHAT A's DO YOU KNOW looking forwards to pints with you all at Mumbles.(If I'm not too much of a pansy) ------------- go on you know it makes sense |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 9:40am
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Since I got swallowed by a big slimey monster life has been a bit strange...er. If the rest of my crew come and save me I will have to get a faster boat to out run that Kraken thing... you never know, if I'm still feeling very week and feeble I might even go for an 'A'. Hope all you pansies have a good time at the Mumbles... top place for a bit of yatching. I'd love to come and play too but I am otherwise engadge in May, you know sorting out the 'East India Company', escaping terriable scrapes and fighting off Keria Knightly. PS sink a couple of shandys for me, although I obviously prefer Jamacian Rum. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: redhotchilicat
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 12:30pm
Give me a shout if you need a hand with that Keira Knightly thing tricky piece of business that but only too happy to help ------------- go on you know it makes sense |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 12:56pm
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If any of you A Catters are around on Wedneday or Thursday (and it's not howling) can I have a go on one ?
I'll be there by lunchtime on Wednesday with a bit of luck ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 5:10pm
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thats right jack blame your children for sailing a crap boat. i think if i were a ten year old girl i would buy one aswell but as i am 6 foot4 and 16 stone i think i will stick with the A. anyway cracking photo. its amazing what you can buy at homebase these days.
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 5:15pm
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Oh come on B&Q it's where all the top sailors get there boats.
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 1:13pm
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Windguru is saying it's going to be proper windy on Thursday; Peaking on the gower (which I assume is the nearest Windguru point) at 31kts http://www.windguru.com/int/index.php?sc=119 - http://www.windguru.com/int/index.php?sc=119 So bank goes any meaningfull practice on Thursday !
Friday looking much better at 18kts ! ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Worthy
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 2:17pm
Bear in mind that windguru tends to be lighter than what you get on the day!  ------------- |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 04 May 07 at 2:55pm
I know ! I think I'll get the flexi foils out on Thursday ! ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 09 May 07 at 4:47pm
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14 Online Pre-entries to date, The majority of which are A's including some foreigners.
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Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 09 May 07 at 11:15pm
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Entry list so far is on web site (go to results) and results will be updated daily for anybody interested. http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk - www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk As and F16s will be scored separately and together as one fleet on elapsed time (no handicaps).
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Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 19 May 07 at 12:05am
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It was a great event, I'm still not sure what was better sailing or socialising? I still believe Mumbles is the 'G' spot of Welsh Cat sailing even though the weather was suffering from PMT. But apart from the conditions I would like to thank all the competitors etc for taking the effort to participate and hopefully we will see you again soon. If you were too lazy to check out the results Chris F narrowly beat Simon N in the A's and Dave T is the new F16 National Champ. ------------- MP*MULTIHULLS The UK F16 Dealer http://www.mp-multihulls.co.uk |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 19 May 07 at 2:18am
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Mark forgot to mention a few "highlights"..... Some people went swimming (some twice). Some people cannot count (now that really hurts when winning your first race at an F16 event But I think I can say that all people had a lot of fun and even tho we lost one day to silly winds and I broke the boat *(fixed soon). It was a great event and well done to Mark for all the hard work and for Mumbles YC for hosting the event in some testing conditions.
Real shame the Welsh Cat event is the same weekend as the ECPR! (Mark I'll call you as they always announce the date for the following year at the end of the race prize giving) as I would have tried to do both.
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)Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 17 Jun 07 at 11:32am
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A Class Nats photos up. http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk - www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk (Annotatable) |