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Topic: wax
Posted By: chris51
Subject: wax
Date Posted: 30 Nov 06 at 11:00pm

After people have polished the bottom of there hull does anyone finish it with car wax to protect the finish?

It will obviously make the hull super smooth but does water then stick to it, making it slow?




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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 30 Nov 06 at 11:04pm

Polish? Bottom??????? Shocked

What is this incomprehensible language you are speaking, chris51?



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Posted By: Hobbo
Date Posted: 30 Nov 06 at 11:19pm
Originally posted by Black no sugar

Polish? Bottom??????? Shocked

What is this incomprehensible language you are speaking, chris51?



The Heathens who dont sail at Lancing seem to look after the bottom of their boats 


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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 30 Nov 06 at 11:40pm
well i think a matt finish on the bottom of a boat and foils is faster than a shiny one. So wet and dry, and then polish with car cutting paste. Job done!

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Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 01 Dec 06 at 11:22am

Not this old chestnut again! All of the available science says that the more perfect the finish, the lower the drag. Perfect means shiny. Car wax will NOT make water "stick" to the hull, rather the opposite. It'll make dirt stick less too. Just make sure you buff it all off thoroughly. Buff with a clean cloth, then when it's shiny, buff it again with another clean cloth!

In the real world, The finish will not make that much difference unless the hull is completely fair, and that's a LOT of work!

Neil



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Posted By: WildWood
Date Posted: 01 Dec 06 at 11:52am
Yeah, plus it looks nicer when its shiny... and we all know, if your looking good, your going to go faster

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Posted By: Lucy Lee
Date Posted: 01 Dec 06 at 11:55am

And besides, however much time you intend to spend in the garage with the sandpaper & buffer you will definitely go faster if you spend that time on the water.

Now, if you have a fully committed shore crew (to do the fairing and waxing) and a training boat (to sail while Mummy is waxing the race boat) then you might want to consider the relative merits of different hull waxing / finishing schemes. But really, most people gave up sailing oppies a long time ago .



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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 01 Dec 06 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Lucy Lee

But really, most people gave up sailing oppies a long time ago .

 

oooh controversial!  I'll have you know there were plenty of kids in the oppy fleet who went around without cleaning their bottoms. 

That's because mummy wiped it for them



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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 01 Dec 06 at 5:11pm
we did an experement in the towing tank at uni last week and proved that some types of polish do nothing. and i thought that it was illegal to use some silicant based products

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 03 Dec 06 at 12:01am

Originally posted by olly_love

we did an experement in the towing tank at uni last week and proved that some types of polish do nothing.

So did some other types bring an improvement, then? Or are you merely implying that certain, maybe recently-advertised new polishes don't bring any drag benefits?

 



Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 04 Dec 06 at 12:33pm

Most polishes will do nothing for boatspeed, they don't make the surface finish any better. They will however stop the dirt from sticking to the finish, so you'll have to clean it less often.

Neil



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Posted By: English Dave
Date Posted: 04 Dec 06 at 3:06pm

Neil, I think Tome Gruit is related to the boy in the TV ad who cleans his dad's car with a brillo pad!

You are right, he is wrong. However, as long as I have taken most of the dings out of my foils, I reckon that's close enough for me.



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Hurricane 5.9 SX
RS700


Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 05 Dec 06 at 9:54am

Totally agree Dave, life's too short to worry about every tiny scratch. Fairness has far more impact on the performance of foils and hulls than finish. Most of us aren't good enough to keep a rudder running in laminar flow anyway, which is where most of the benefit would come. If you're going to bother refinishing your foils or hull, though, you might as well go the whole hog and get it perfect.

Plus, the beer tastes better if it's a reward for a bit of hard work

Neil



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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 05 Dec 06 at 10:38am
hull finish is important but having a well set up boat is more and actually sailing it well is the most important

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