Stole this from a guy's sig on another forum:

Most civilization is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.

The result of that thinking is just so prevalent at our General Committee meetings. All talk of RIB's, safety cover, electrical and CORGI checks on the club-house, entertainment licences just to play a ghetto blaster, fire regs. Sometimes I just want to shout 'but this is a sailing club!'

Still, it's more jobs for so-called public servants, I guess.

Oi!

I'm a public servant, I'm also bigger than you and I know where you live, so watch it!

And I used to be one, so I know whereof I speak... Only democratisation of the promotion system could save the public service imho.

Yes I see where you're coming from TT, but it will then swing the other way and we'll get the "Vicky Pollard" yeah but no but yeah but no but muppets who put everything down to Darwinism and can't accept responsibility for anything.  Nobody seems to have any balanced judgement these days.  Now when I were a lad ...............

Absolutely not No.5: most of my colleagues really wanted to do a proper job, but were often thwarted by their amoral, target and promotion-seeking 'superiors', who simply didn't want to know about job quality - that wasn't being assessed and just got in the way of the quantity!

Had we been able to vote for our bosses, on the other hand, we wouldn't have taken the easy option but would have elected someone we knew understood what was required and would appreciate us achieving it. If he/she then voted for their boss and so on the whole thing could have become a public service worthy of the name.

Sorry, everybody, for the rant, but it's where your money is going and you could be getting better value for money and happier officials to boot...

It sounds rather like you worked for the same part of the civil service as me- but I expect its the same everywhere.

I quite agree.

As TT says, It would help if our supposed superiors didn't keep t!tting about with pointless re-branding and marketing of non-commercial organisations, amongst other things.

To hopelessly mis-quote 'Field of Dreams'

"Give them a job and they will vote for you"

Socialist big government policy.

Think I'll go and leap through another hoop.

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Originally posted by turnturtle Can't really complain though- moving the aim of the game was good for us; it always meant there was another big bucks/low ROI re-br anding exercise around the corner for the private sector to implement at the tax payer's expense.... just hurts a bit now the boot's on the other foot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6159194.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6159194.stm

So thats where it all goes the keep TT in boats fund.

 

All ill say is

Thatchers Britain !!!!!

I know where you are coming from i heard grumblings that our club is going to start something to make sure children are protected whilst doing there rya training, and what to do with allogations of kiddy fiddling I mean for pittys sake!

The kids are with there parents whilst training, oh and there was something about being in the changing rooms at the same time!!! What the F!$k