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Topic: RS600 Help
Posted By: Shaggy
Subject: RS600 Help
Date Posted: 21 May 06 at 7:43pm

 

 Hi people,  i have just purchased a rs600. just a question on the rig setup. there seems to be alot of rake on the mast before the sail is even on, it doesnt sit flush on the mouting on the deck. could this be down to the shrouds being to short or are they all like this? if anyone has any pictures side on showing there mast and step would be much appreciated.



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RS600 (662)



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Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 22 May 06 at 8:40am

Hi

The mast will be raked until you tighten the forestay.It also doesnt sit neatly on thre step.

It should not be hugely raked once you've got lots of forestay tension on - nothing like a Contender.

Go onto the RS Web site and look at the Tuning section for the 600 - lots of useful docs to print off. -   http://www.rs-association.com/ - http://www.rs-association.com/

 

Good luck

 



Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 25 May 06 at 12:00pm
Im saying nothing.

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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 25 May 06 at 12:47pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

enjoy the boat and don't do what I did last night which will cost £100 for a new extension... (or a visit to the fishing shop if I follow the sound advice from the IainC)

I recently got a 2m Harrison extension from P&B for £75. It's the business and has taken a lot more abuse then the crap Holt one (I think they only get crap over a certain length - mine was 2.1m) I broke last season.

Incidentaly I made a Streaker and Oppy sailor quite happy when I presented each of them with a 'new' carbon tiller extension. I guess if you're lucky with where it broke you could sell both ends and recoup some of the replacement cost?



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Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36


Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 25 May 06 at 1:52pm

bov did my tillers, same tube as the rooster ones which is almost indistructable! only cheaper from bov. only complain i have is the crappy UJ's but the are on the 29er, not bovs fault. sea sure UJ's deffo the best.!!

 



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http://www.kielderwatersc.org - Kielder Water Sailing Club


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 May 06 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

I basically invert the mast on the forestay and once the sail's up it's fairly straight rig.



For a 600, thats some EXTREME rig tension!!  When i first got mine i talked to some of the old skool 600 guys and their general rule of thumb seemed to be "floppy is fast", the idea being you should set it to you weight so that as you put your weight on the wire the windward shroud should just go floppy.  On a loose gauge i doubt im evening hitting 20 (im quite light ya see). 
hhmmmmm i think i may try some extreme tension and see what it feels like, could well be that ive been sailing with a horrible shaped rig!

Any chance of you going to the 600 open at weymouth 1st wknd of june??
would be nice to race against some other Y&Y forum members!

Doug


Posted By: Shaggy
Date Posted: 25 May 06 at 9:23pm
thank you for the advise, just to follow up i went out for a blast today for the first time definately found the right boat for myself :)

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RS600 (662)


Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 26 May 06 at 6:38pm

[QUOTE=turnturtle]
Rig tension-

I was told to whack it on, I had heard that powers the rig up???  perhaps this is bad advice? 

You don't want it too tight, just enough to keep the rig in the boat, so as Doug said, with your weight on the wire the windward shroud should be slightly slack. Any tighter and you will stop the mast rotating and downwind you won't be able to get the boom out. The only time you want it super-tight is in strong winds and big waves, when the whole thing is crashing around and you need to ensure the mast doesn't suddenly pop off it's support!

cheers

Jamie



Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 26 May 06 at 6:59pm
There is a guy sailing a 600 seriously fast at our sailing club at the moment and he seems to sail with quite alot of tension. We do sail on the sea tho and get big waves alot. My dad sails a contender (well as of tomorrow a MPS) but he said Danny was the first 600 sailor to leave him upwind so he must be doing summin right.

Il take a loose gauge tomorrow and whack it on his shroud.

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Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 31 May 06 at 2:47pm
Unfortunately my dad has gone and taken the Loose gauge to set up his Musto (I mean really!) so il have to do it on sunday.

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Posted By: Femto
Date Posted: 31 May 06 at 11:03pm
Shaggy- The 600 does have a lot of rake in the rig, most of us sail with the pin in the 3rd hole down the chain plates which should give about 6900mm between the top of the mast and the transom bar centre. As the breeze increases drop down a couple more holes.

[QUOTE=turnturtle] I basically invert the mast on the forestay and once the sail's up it's fairly straight rig.

Given that there are no shrouds you must have a *serious* bit of rig tension on to do anything to change the shape of the mast!!

As Doug suggested you should get down to some circuit events as soon as possible, everyone is really helpful and there are several forumites about (can't make it to weymouth, got to go sail round some silly little island on a farr40 , meh....)



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RS600 717, RS400 870 Netley SC
Kerr 11.3 (Pier View YC)


Posted By: Garf
Date Posted: 02 Jun 06 at 12:07pm
Ive recently bought an RS600 and hope to launch her at Datchet this weekend.

I hope to take on these comments (along with the other literature from the RS class website.




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Looking for a 'Ball!


Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 02 Jun 06 at 1:15pm
I guess jamie600 is the same Jamie who used to sail a 300? If so, he does pretty well and has had one for a while, so I would follow his advice! (even if he does sail at the other end of the world!!)

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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 06 Jun 06 at 2:40pm

Other end of the world  - LOL

Hi Rob, yes it is the same Jamie, currently recovering from last weekend at Weymouth, and a six hour drive home!

 



Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 06 Jun 06 at 8:15pm

jamie 600 that used to sail a 300 do you sail at grafham and work at a si and is so is it the same person that i know you



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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 07 Jun 06 at 12:07pm

 

Not me sorry, I sail at Pennine SC near Sheffield




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