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Trailer Sailer

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Topic: Trailer Sailer
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Subject: Trailer Sailer
Date Posted: 18 Aug 22 at 3:29pm

I'm mainly a dinghy sailor but I did own and sail a small keelboat a while ago. I am considering replacing my little used Spice dinghy and my Avon Adventure 4.5m/50HP RHIB with a trailer sailer. I want to dry sail the boat in the same way I use the RHIB but am concerned that the extra weight and draught will make launch and recovery sufficiently difficult to make it a none starter. Does anybody have experience of day sailing a 6-7m lifting keel boat. The boats on the shortlist include First 21.7 or 211, Sun 2000, Cornish Shrimper 19 & Hunter Medina. They displace between about 860kg (Medina) up to about 1250kg (Shrimper and First 21.7) where the RHIB is about 450kg and needs about 50cm to float off the trailer. It may be possible to leave the boat at anchor overnight in a sheltered bay sometimes when the forecast is suitable (insurance permitting) but I would mostly be hauling out after each sail, the mast would stay up for the season. 




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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"



Replies:
Posted By: marke
Date Posted: 19 Aug 22 at 11:15am
Take a look at the Swallow Bayraider Expedition or Baycruiser 20/23 - definitely an update on the boats you are considering. Water ballasted, carbon mast, launches without getting the trailer wheels wet, sails really well.


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 19 Aug 22 at 11:57am
When I borrowed one from a friend for a week, this was one with a cabin, four berth, can't remember what it was, really old though, I launched it the same way we launch the safety boat, backed it down the slip until it floated, the wheels were under water, but the car didn't go in, retrieved it the same way.

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Robert


Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 20 Aug 22 at 6:36am
Hi Sam. S’funny as I have been going through the same dilemma and have just this week bought a trailer sailor after looking at Shrimpers, First 211 and all manner of the type. I really would have loved a Shrimper oddly enough , despite coming from a racing background. They are easy to fall in love with. I have now bought a beautiful Storm 22 sleek cruiser racer. Not a UK made boat but in great condition.

My viewpoint is launching and recovery of a trailer sailer is a ball ache and you will soon tire of the effort needed to launch and recover. I bought the Storm without a trailer and will keep it moored (lift out each winter). I think the term trailer sailer is a bit of a misnomer. Maybe if you want to explore other parts of the country, then fine, but not as a regular sailing option.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 20 Aug 22 at 9:52am
That is what I'm worried about, I find launching and recovering the RHIB a bit of.a faff but not too bad TBH. I would get much more enjoyment out of a sailing boat than I do out of the RHIB but if launch/recovery is a huge pain then I probably won't bother. The alternative would be to join the sailing club and rent a mooring but then we'd have the issue of having to drive to the harbour and row out to the boat which is also a faff, plus the extra expense.

Good looking boat BTW Thumbs Up


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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 22 Aug 22 at 5:18pm
In my experience you'll  rapidly tire of launching and recovering it and find excuses not to use it.

We bought s Shrimper and it sits on a drying mooring very happily.

Lovely boat to own but they are pricey.

Some of the French options probably sail better, less maintenance ?

Swift 18 sails ok too and quite cheap




Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 Aug 22 at 6:04pm
What about a micro tonner? They used the National 18 hull and put a lid on it for one type. Not sure if the concept still exists.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 23 Aug 22 at 9:06am
As you are not having to rig/un rig the boat I don't see why dry sailing should be too onerous. Flying Fifteens and others do it all the time. Careful choice of boat and launching trolley would make all the difference.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 04 Oct 22 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by Old bloke

As you are not having to rig/un rig the boat I don't see why dry sailing should be too onerous. Flying Fifteens and others do it all the time. Careful choice of boat and launching trolley would make all the difference.

That's the other side of the coin. I'm still thinking about it but not in any hurry. Where I sail there is access to a good slipway apart from 1-2 hours either side of low water but no moorings close enough to convince me that keeping a boat on one would work for us.



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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 05 Oct 22 at 6:09am
Sam. We are on the cusp of a similar decision about rationalising our "fleet". Looking like an FF could work at both lake and bay for giving us more sailing opportunities while retaining an element of performance and entry to racing. 
edit add. BTW. A chap at our lake regularly launches, sail and recovers his FF singlehanded with no bother, as slick as slick.


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 05 Oct 22 at 8:59am
You would struggle in the surf on your own, going to be tricky with two. How were you planning to get out to the boat once you have parked the car and trailer?

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Robert


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Oct 22 at 7:41pm
In my case the slipway, and the bay, are sheltered in the prevailing conditions and I'll be sailing two up or more so launch and recovery will be no problem and, as the boats I'm considering only draw around a foot, the crew standing in the water while I park the car is simples.

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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"



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