Ok...Lets Not Talk About The Olympics
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Topic: Ok...Lets Not Talk About The Olympics
Posted By: Oinks
Subject: Ok...Lets Not Talk About The Olympics
Date Posted: 01 Aug 21 at 11:40pm
| Last 3 threads...Farr 4.7s, Ovington Laser, Where next for the Youth worlds. For me (and I'll not be posting here again...ever) a very redundant forum with very irrelevant posters. Cheerio. |
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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 02 Aug 21 at 7:21am
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Your points are all valid. But you really don’t get how forums work do you, if you want to talk about something ie Olympics. START A THREAD . You have done a very nice flounce though , 10 out of 10 for that  |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 02 Aug 21 at 8:59am
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Yeah Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: chrisg
Date Posted: 02 Aug 21 at 9:10am
| You know you have posted this in the "Dinghy Development" section of the forum, not the "Olympic" section where some people have been discussing, oh wait, the Olympics? |
Posted By: E.J.
Date Posted: 02 Aug 21 at 9:24am
| That was an impressive little tantrum. Overtired? |
Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 7:59am
Everything you say is perfectly true - a point I have made many times that this forum is all but irrelevant, except with the very vocal few - but I still lurk here and there for reasons not even clear to me... The fact that just today we have won 2 Golds and a Silver in our very own sport seems to have passed without comment... Still, if you want things to change, then you have to make the effort yourself. |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 9:02am
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Forum used to be very good, unfortunately there are about half a dozen very negative posters, who, think they are being clever and relevant by jumping on the slightest thing, becomes very wearing when you have to think about every post you make, takes the spontaneity out of posting. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 9:03am
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Oh Dear.. will we miss him? Probably not, but it is a shame he felt that annoyed with the few of us that do still post here, to f**k us off.
Largely it probably is redundant, but I've yet to find a fb page for instance where the discussion gets even mildly provocative. Even though we are all t**sers to most yottie folk, we're 'our' t**sers, and everyone will be missed when they leave. Pity. What is it with people these days, not agreeing to differ? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 9:08am
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The fact that just today we have won 2 Golds and a Silver in our very own sport seems to have passed without comment...
Just a thought, but maybe the place for discussions of the Olympics is the Olympic Sailing forum rather than Dinghy Development?? ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 9:55am
True, but the Forum has way too many sub-sections to keep a track of things. And even that section was full of tumbleweed.
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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 2:54pm
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I don't know what I'm doing differently, but the Olympic sub section popped up in my unread list as soon as someone posted there. Works well for me. ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 03 Aug 21 at 3:31pm
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Your not doing anything differently, Covid stress could be playing a part in this, apparently it substantially reduces intelligence ------------- Robert |
Posted By: Mark Aged 42
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 7:22am
| This is the way the Boards forum died its slow death. Its sad. |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 8:28am
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Haha - great thread Oinks I logged on for the first time in months to find out what the team racing protest against Mills was all about... as I've missed all coverage. I guess I'll have to wait for the mainstream media Brexity interpretation of the event from The Daily Mail instead... Have fun guys, I'm genuinely glad to see the Farr is still subject of much discussion - great boat imho.
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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 9:06am
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Olympics becoming a joke anyway, Russia banned, but all there Olympians are there. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: Sussex Lad
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 12:00pm
....put that right for you.  |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 12:22pm
My phone had covid, can't be bothered to correct it  ------------- Robert |
Posted By: dogslife
Date Posted: 04 Aug 21 at 8:09pm
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Just a thought; may be Olympic Sailing has become less "relevant" to the average club sailor?
Foiling cats, difficult to sail skiffs, excessive pumping & ouching in the 470s & Finns (that will get you DSQed pdq if you try and emulate it at your club or the next open) and GBRs Laser sailors really didn’t set GB alight. |
Posted By: Oatsandbeans
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 5:49am
| I agree didn’t watch any of it this time round-not really interested in it tbh |
Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 7:27am
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Shame to see such negativity about a team of sailors who have done us proud. Brilliant job and amazing tight finishes in the medal races. I dont agree with double points for the medal races. 49 er Gold Finn Gold 470 Gold Nacra SILVER RSX Bronze ------------- Gordon Phantom 1430 |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 7:29am
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I thought the 49er medal race was one we could all relate too, tricky light winds, good team balance making most of each little patch of wind… could be an elite Wednesday evening club race! Are 49ers really that hard to just sail in normal sailing conditions? I think the Finn pumping down wind looks athletic and very skill full, I’m surprised more una sail boats don’t allow similar To my eye the 470 upwind pumping looks stupid, It’s obviously effective and very athletic, but hardly inspiring. ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: Cirrus
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 9:24am
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Allowing unlimited 'air rowing' was one of the largest nails in the coffin that took popular board racing away from the general sailing community. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions - always was as well. However in the opinion of a significant majority "it still ain't proper sailing" even where/if allowed, which it should not be frankly if you want to keep the dinghy world in reasonable health long term. Don't give this one up ... unless you want to drive even people more into other activities. You may as well simply keep to the C2 work as bother with 'sailing' ....( and skip out the wet n expensive stuff out there on the water...)  |
Posted By: Oatsandbeans
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 10:28am
| My problem was the BBC coverage-I had no idea how view the events. I am not going to watch loads of other sports just to catch some sailing. I also tire of the commentary-so yes I am an old codger that has lost interest in it. ( but I did like the Americas Cup -that was good-despite being continuously reminded that one of the presenters had won 2 gold medals!) |
Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 12:35pm
errmm .. the BBC did not have the full licence to show the Olympics, only 2 live events at a time - one on mainstream and one on Red Button. You needed to subscribe to Discovery+/Eurosport for coverage ... Not the BBC's fault. Blame commercialism.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 2:05pm
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Got to disagree there, what is the point of having a National Service basically taxed from us via a TV license fee if something as Nationally Important as an Olympic Games is 'traded off' so some other deal later can be broadcast.
If it is so that we're now in a world of paying various commercial operators to view basic stuff, then no point in paying a license fee for the BBC woke service. I mean they do so much coverage for our grass roots sports do they? Not. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 2:08pm
| Blimey iGRF. You are displaying an awful amount of unusual naievity ;-) Check out what happened to F1 .. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 2:45pm
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F1 isn't exactly an arena that our entire youth can aspire to compete in. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 3:05pm
| With you there GRF. If the beeb can’t even cover the Olympics properly, what is the point of them? |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Aug 21 at 4:44pm
I was strongly against unlimited pumping when it was adopted but I learned to do it and I don't believe my results in the years following would have been significantly better/different had it remained outlawed. Does that mean I'd like to see it in dinghies? No definitely not, pumping a windsurfer is a natural progression from holding the rig in your hands, quite different from the gymnastics employed in the 470s. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Oatsandbeans
Date Posted: 06 Aug 21 at 5:34am
| I am sure that pumping a windsurfer has completely done in my elbow joints. I can’t be anything else I have done- never done anything like tennis (crap at that sort of thing).So in retrospect it would have been better if they had not allowed that back in the 80/90s. |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 06 Aug 21 at 7:58am
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Don't blame the BBC for the Olympic coverage. Discovery+ apparently paid £920m for the rights. I can almost guarantee you would have been moaning if the Beeb had outbid them for that. How the hell are the supposed to compete? When sports chases the dollar as the Olympics do the only way it is going to be on terrestial TV is if the Government forces it to be, but then that would probably be considered communist. Oh and the BBC are not 'woke' just because they don't broadcast things that agree with your point of view.
------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 Aug 21 at 1:59pm
How are they supposed to compete, what with their revenue? Very Easily, just stop paying stupid money for football and even more stupid money to its commentators. Yes the BBC are most definitely woke and all things PC beyond absurdity. Beyond Steve Wright and Ken Bruce I struggle to even find someone male or even sounds like a male, the female pendulum has swung way out of control, the only way blokes seem to get a job is to sound like wimmen and preferably wimmen with an estuary accent and slightly to the left of Karl Marx. Yes the Government should step in, if it forces us to pay the BBC by law, then that law should ensure that incidence of national importance are thoroughly covered. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 06 Aug 21 at 4:07pm
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Take a cold shower and lie down GRF, you're beginning to have hallucinations. ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 07 Aug 21 at 7:40am
errr they don't. The money they pay for PL highlights is a drop in the ocean compared to what Sky pay. I dread to think what Sky pay their pundits and commentators! The BBC in its current form can't compete. That means things need to change, but if they do will it still be free to air? A Sky sports subscription costs roughly per month what a terrestrial licence costs per quarter.
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Posted By: Grumpycat
Date Posted: 07 Aug 21 at 10:15am
Nice to see your can still post as much utter sh@t as always . As always, totally incorrect on every fact .
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 07 Aug 21 at 11:23am
Nice to see you're awake, but er has the matron missed your medication? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 07 Aug 21 at 12:45pm
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Team GBR only organisation causing these issues, lottery money has attracted more none athletes to the organisation, staggering number of back room staff, money also attracted executives to handle large sums of money, executives then need to ensure their survival by attracting more money, hence selling to the highest bidder, rather than a free to air broadcaster. Olympians who lose their grants are directly proportional to increased costs of none athletic staff, vicious circle. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 08 Aug 21 at 10:59am
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The IOC, not Team GBR own and franchise the rights. ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 08 Aug 21 at 11:22am
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Correct, mixing up two organisations, but exactly the same issue, helped by drink
------------- Robert |