Which gloves?
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Topic: Which gloves?
Posted By: ClubRacer
Subject: Which gloves?
Date Posted: 04 Mar 21 at 8:55pm
My history of gloves are; I sailed in builders gloves for years, they're cheap and grippy but don't keep your hands warm during the winter when wet. So I moved to all weather neoprene gloves, they're fairly grippy, fairly warm but not particularly tightly fitting. They're good if your sheets are wet as they don't transfer through the gloves much but on a really cold day the wind chill gets through them. I then went for thermal waterproof building gloves. These are brilliant, so warm your hands sweat, they're tightly fitting and they're completely waterproof up to the wrists so unless you submerge your hands they'l stay completely dry (also cheap as chips!!). The only draw back to these are that they are bulky, fine when sailing the 400 as the mainsheet needs to be gripped hard as the loads are so high on it but when I moved to the 200 you need much more feel. So I started sailing without gloves for the first time ever. The feel you get makes the boat so much faster in the light stuff and through the tacks rather than trying to let the mainsheet slip through your hands like you're wearing a pair of mittens, I could now let it glide out seamlessly. This was fine for the summer and most of the winter but now I'm sailing nearly every weekend from November to April (at least I hope to be this year!!!) there are a couple of really cold days where if I don't wear gloves I can't stay out for the full schedule of races.
What gloves to get? They need to be warm and waterproof while still being able to retain a lot of dexterity. I thought I had solved it when someone showed me a pair of their Rooster aquapro gloves which were miles to small for me. I ordered a pair in the right size and after trying them on they don't have the snugness I thought they would. The quality looks great but they just don't have the right length to width ratio for my long skinny fingers.
What other options do I have? Have spent hours trying to find the right gloves and am pulling my hair out.
ps. why is formatting on this forum so rubbish
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Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 8:26am
There will be as many different answers and preferences as there are forum members. Gloves are very much a personal thing, especially if you have longer fingers etc. I find the Rooster AquaPro pretty good for my hands - and my hands get cold very easily - even in summer my fingers can go white and numb - I think its called Reynaulds desease. However, its always a compromise - warmth vs dexterity.
The formatting on the forum has been off for a long time. Certainly last 3 years or more.
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 8:39am
I've been using Rooster polypro glove liner under a normal pair of sailing gloves and it keeps my hand pretty warm, however I will probably go for the hot hands under the same gloves next winter as having Reynauds too now.
Certainly the polypro ones add virtually no bulk under the other gloves and it feels no different to sailign without them (under the gloves)
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 10:05am
One option you could try that we used many moons ago was a set of marigold washing up gloves with a set of normal sailing gloves (fingerless or 3/4 length) over the top. This keeps your hands dry, especially if you use some tape around the cuff or tuck them into your wetsuit sleeve but you need the sailing glove to stop them getting ripped up.
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Posted By: andy h
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 10:07am
I use Showa 451 work gloves (or similar) size 9 which suits my hands bought bulk on ebay. I chop the thumb and forefinger off them in the summer. For frostbite sailing I leave them intact but if really cold put on surgical gloves underneath.
This gives me a good combination of fit, dexterity and protection which has worked well against Europe mainsheets, RS400 and Etchells jibs and kites. I usually get about 12 races out of a pair, which if scaled up to the longevity of real sailing gloves works out a lot cheaper.
You can get sailing wear branded "builders' gloves" but they don't last any longer than the cheapo ones.
------------- Europe AUS53 & FF 3615
National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 10:09am
I have spent forty five years seeking a working pair of gloves, I spent twnety years working for a company that makes watersports gloves, indeed I even became the best salesman of Goretex Gloves in Europe for a couple of seasons and my advice? Don't bother, none of them work and they all end up ripped off and in the bottom of the boat, bare hands, go through hot hurts and mtfu is all there is, sorry. (If you want any performance sensitivity that is)
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 12:37pm
I wear Gill neoprene gloves when it's cold and, ATM, Gill fingerless gloves when it's not. I never found a pair of gloves that were any use for windsurfing though.
------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"
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Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by iGRF
... my advice? Don't bother, none of them work and they all end up ripped off and in the bottom of the boat, bare hands, go through hot hurts and mtfu is all there is, sorry. (If you want any performance sensitivity that is) |
Are you sure you are iGRF? 'Cos I am agreeing with you again.
Most gloves seem to hold water against your hands, making them colder as it sucks the heat out of you; without, the water disappears.
also, when the gloves fail, the soft skin then exposed is really not going to like it. Better tough hands.
However, I'm not to looking forward to the likely aftermath of my hands ripping up during 4 days of sailing over Easter, after they've done damn-all except soften up for months.
edit: because the formatting of paragraphs is still going wrong
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 5:37pm
As several others, haven't bought sailing gloves for several years now. Settled on these quite thin but for me an ideal balance of grip and feel. Tried the Showa ones I've seen favoured by some but for me too grippy to slip the main and adjust hand position on tiller ext. (Contender sometimes only have one hand for each adjustment). Nitrile gloves underneath sometimes if really cold. Having working hands I could probably sail without gloves most of the time but they keep the wedding ring safer than for ever putting it off and on. Buy a multipack which lasts for a couple of years and I also use them for some work jobs.
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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 6:04pm
I use same ones dodifferent, but with fingerless gel cycling gloves over the top.
------------- Robert
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 6:08pm
I’m in the no gloves camp, tried loads and end up with colder hands, sail all year when the government allows. Sail and apply Norwegian hand cream and you will be fine. Based on single handed boats. If you’re crewing a spinnaker boat I would wear gloves, .
------------- Tink
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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 6:17pm
I think you can get more power into the sheet by having a better grip, but I take my gloves off in light wind. I don’t wear sailing gloves for warmth, just grip. I used not to wear gloves but I have come around to this view.
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 6:56pm
You're not wrong on spinnaker boats Tink; kite halyards can go through flesh like a cheese wire.
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Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by Do Different
You're not wrong on spinnaker boats Tink; kite halyards can go through flesh like a cheese wire. |
Oh yeah- I work in building and could go all season without gloves doing just a mainsheet and not get one scratch on my hands. The minute I jump in the front and hoist the kite I won't be able to move my fingers for a week.
Wondering how thick the layup would be on; polypro hand warmers/ Latex gloves/ Cheap as you can get thin builders gloves to protect the latex.
You know what they say about layers... 
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 10:30pm
I found the problem was the gloves moving around making gripping anything very difficult, its not a problem with non stretchy, close fitting sailing gloves but very bad with those knitted, latex dipped, builders gloves, especially when you put nitrile or latex gloves underneath.
------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"
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Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 05 Mar 21 at 11:51pm
Basically, with gloves..you pays yer monies! When I was younger (and 'ard as nails) I went gloveless. Thirty years on, modern gloves keep me sailing throughout the year. If you can't keep your hands comfortable it will affect your sailing. Personally, full fingered gloves, over the wrist (where a lot of heat can disappear). Make sure they're a good close fit. Take time over choosing gloves.
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Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 06 Mar 21 at 12:15am
Best gloves I ever had... 
Here... https://jonti.co.uk/douglas-gill-extreme-glove" rel="nofollow - Douglas Gill Extreme - Glove | Jonti
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 Mar 21 at 5:29pm
Originally posted by fab100
after they've done damn-all except soften up for months
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You can say that again and hands aint the only thing going to suffer...
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 06 Mar 21 at 6:13pm
Not going to start a new thread but it’s my feet that suffer - how do you keep your feet warm?
------------- Tink
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Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 06 Mar 21 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by tink
Not going to start a new thread but it’s my feet that suffer - how do you keep your feet warm? |
Sealskinz socks!!! Get knee length ones and pull them right up so that when you launch and recover your feet still stay dry and even if they don't they still keep the cold away. Also an all year round benefit of preventing gravel/sand into your boots when sailing at the coast
After years of wearing these over the top of other socks I found its actually warmer to not wear cotton socks on your feet...
Added benefit of folding them down over your boots to tidy them up and prevent them coming undone.
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 06 Mar 21 at 6:52pm
Drysuit in winter with thick thermal socks underneath and oversized boots over the top, 1.5mm neoprene cycling socks under boots when it's not warm enough for boots alone
------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"
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Posted By: deadrock
Date Posted: 07 Mar 21 at 1:06pm
I've had Reynaud's in my fingers for many years, usually sailing after a break for lunch. My solution (which works every time) is to stand up in the boat and wave my arms rapidly, one at a time, in a windmilling motion; the centrifugal force pushes blood to the fingertips and restores the circulation. It sometimes attracts a rescue boat.
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Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 07 Mar 21 at 2:51pm
Feet
Seal skin socks
Or if drysuit, thick pair inside drysuit. Thin pair over the drysuit socks to allow me to put on boots.
Not had cold feet since I started doing that.
Andy
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Posted By: seastate
Date Posted: 07 Mar 21 at 4:07pm
Hands, Rooster glove liners with cheap diy gloves over the top in winter to keep the the hands warm and protect the the inner glove but then just the cheap gloves in the summer as a helm or crewing in the Merlin, in a RS400 always use Gill championship full finger gloves with a spare pair in the buoyancy aid (2 pairs just about last a year handling the spinnaker halyard and sheets) Feet, in winter boots a size too big with neoprene wet socks inside tucked inside the wetsuit, keeps the feet dry and warm whilst launching but not if stood in the water for a long time, also works with a dry suit with thermal socks laex dry suit socks inside the boot. Summer time either Gill aqua tech shoe or winter boots with a pair of socks to fill the space up to stop the boots moving about on the feet
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Posted By: Sussex Lad
Date Posted: 09 Mar 21 at 9:36am
.....there comes a time and age when getting dressed is a harder workout than the sailing.
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Posted By: Fans1024
Date Posted: 09 Mar 21 at 12:22pm
Showa 306 and rooster poly pro liners. Showa 306 have a latex coating so keep the worse of the water and wind off, I then use them by themselves in the summer.
Sailing crewed boats I struggled with sailing gloves providing enough grip for spinnaker hoists/ drops, so have always liked the builders glove option. I've tried the normal orange gloves with liners (too cold in winter), the grey thermal ones (too bulky), some latex lined ones with a fleece liner (bulky and a nightmare to get on if your hands are even mildly damp), cheapo visitors gloves for site (don't bother they barely last a race).
Plus, if it doesn't work for you, you've only spend a few quid.
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 09 Mar 21 at 5:02pm
I've just bought a pair of those, they may even work for windsurfing.... But I've just remembered I bought a couple of pairs of builders grip gloves, didn't;t like them as the backs were too floppy when wet and they slid around but I left them in the car as emergency backups and after a few months the rubber went gooey and they stuck together. Is this a characteristic of super sticky rubber gloves?
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Posted By: andy h
Date Posted: 10 Mar 21 at 10:34am
Yes Sam, they do get a bit sticky if left scrunched up in a sailing bag in the heat. But after a few months? They are disposable, so I'd be doing well to get more than 12 races out of them as crew in a spinnaker boat, probably ditch a pair every month or after a couple of windy open meetings. The ones I now use are thinner versions of the Showa dipped builders gloves. The 451s I mentioned in the earlier were my winter kit and I do admit they are better for warmth than dexterity.
------------- Europe AUS53 & FF 3615
National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 10 Mar 21 at 5:22pm

Ordered a pair so will give them a go...
------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"
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Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 12 Mar 21 at 4:44pm
Builders gloves (£12.99 for a pack of 12 on Amazon) with a pair of Rooster hot hands underneath in the really cold stuff.Mind you, those hot-hands are a right faff to get on and off, so make sure you can still hold a bacon bap with just those on 
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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 12 Mar 21 at 11:44pm
My problem on the Javelin is that the rope loads are so high, hands or gloves get ripped to shreds in a few races. Gill pro/extreme used to be good but they changed the yellow fabric so they only last a few weeks. Found some code zero ones that lasted a bit and warm enough for autumn. Tried builders gloves, either no grip or no warmth. Neoprene glovesnice and warm but no grip and wear out really fast.
Got some fancy zhik ones from the off sales shop in Cowes .. expensive! Lady in shop says to wear cheap grip gloves over the spensive sailing gloves to get both grip and protection whilst letting the grip gloves wear out. Shall be trying it from March. 31st. Not optimistic.
Gill ..yes you! . Start making those pro gloves properly again. And do the winter ones with a well bonded fleece lining cause the thin fabric liners rip, tangle and make the gloves hard to get on.
------------- Javelin 558
Contender 2574
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Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 13 Mar 21 at 12:35am
Originally posted by NickA
My problem on the Javelin is that the rope loads are so high, hands or gloves get ripped to shreds in a few races. Gill pro/extreme used to be good but they changed the yellow fabric so they only last a few weeks. Found some code zero ones that lasted a bit and warm enough for autumn. Tried builders gloves, either no grip or no warmth. Neoprene glovesnice and warm but no grip and wear out really fast.
Got some fancy zhik ones from the off sales shop in Cowes .. expensive! Lady in shop says to wear cheap grip gloves over the spensive sailing gloves to get both grip and protection whilst letting the grip gloves wear out. Shall be trying it from March. 31st. Not optimistic.
Gill ..yes you! . Start making those pro gloves properly again. And do the winter ones with a well bonded fleece lining cause the thin fabric liners rip, tangle and make the gloves hard to get on.
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Try something like this. I had to stop using them because they were too grippy! Also no issue with wear/warmth as they are incredibly well insulated
I would recommend a size bigger than your normal with them as they are sized small in my opinion
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OX-Thermal-Latex-Work-Gloves/dp/B075SHXQ1P/ref=asc_df_B075SHXQ1P/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=207956646229&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5830903329615290861&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006755&hvtargid=pla-420403050900&psc=1
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 13 Mar 21 at 7:35am
Club Racer, normally a non glover but at £5.50 I have taken the plunge as they looked ok
------------- Tink
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http://proasail.blogspot.com
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 15 Mar 21 at 7:16am
Originally posted by ClubRacer
Originally posted by NickA
My problem on the Javelin is that the rope loads are so high, hands or gloves get ripped to shreds in a few races. Gill pro/extreme used to be good but they changed the yellow fabric so they only last a few weeks. Found some code zero ones that lasted a bit and warm enough for autumn. Tried builders gloves, either no grip or no warmth. Neoprene glovesnice and warm but no grip and wear out really fast.
Got some fancy zhik ones from the off sales shop in Cowes .. expensive! Lady in shop says to wear cheap grip gloves over the spensive sailing gloves to get both grip and protection whilst letting the grip gloves wear out. Shall be trying it from March. 31st. Not optimistic.
Gill ..yes you! . Start making those pro gloves properly again. And do the winter ones with a well bonded fleece lining cause the thin fabric liners rip, tangle and make the gloves hard to get on.
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Try something like this. I had to stop using them because they were too grippy! Also no issue with wear/warmth as they are incredibly well insulated
I would recommend a size bigger than your normal with them as they are sized small in my opinion
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OX-Thermal-Latex-Work-Gloves/dp/B075SHXQ1P/ref=asc_df_B075SHXQ1P/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=207956646229&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5830903329615290861&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006755&hvtargid=pla-420403050900&psc=1 |
Mine have arrived, impressed, grippy and warm but you’re right on the size. Obviously not yet tried them out
------------- Tink
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http://proasail.blogspot.com
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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 18 Mar 21 at 10:08pm
Look pretty good. I like the waterproof bit .. don't think "too grippy" applies on a Javelin.
A third the price of the Musto and Zhik badged builders gloves too.
And a sixth the price of my new (discounted) zhik G2 dinghy gloves.
------------- Javelin 558
Contender 2574
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