Cvdra
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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
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Topic: Cvdra
Posted By: piglet
Subject: Cvdra
Date Posted: 14 Nov 20 at 9:50pm
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OK, so this is me being lazy,
I found the cvdra website registration too difficult for a Saturday night after as bottle of red, and in need truth the motivation wasn't there. There is what I believe is a Fairey marine Swordfish at our club that will be disposed of shortly. This is not a sales add, I just think it's a hanging offence to burn it, if anyone wants to save this relic speak now. South East |
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 14 Nov 20 at 11:05pm
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If you have facebook (yes, I know...) there is an active CVDRA group. If not I'll be happy to link to this thread? ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 14 Nov 20 at 11:33pm
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A coincidence, but, there is a article about 'Fairey Marine' written by David Henshall on the home page. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 15 Nov 20 at 9:20am
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I searched Cvdra on FB but didn't find it.
Feel free to link to this. Thanks |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 15 Nov 20 at 11:39am
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Posted. https://www.facebook.com/groups/cvrda/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/groups/cvrda/ ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 15 Nov 20 at 12:18pm
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Hi Piglet - it's cvrda not cvdra which is why you didn't find us on Facebook. Classic and Vintage Racing Dinghy Association. We've made sure that putting in the wrong one works for the website though. Please try to get the Swordfish kept until lockdown is over so someone could collect. And can you give us more detail such as where and what condition and what equipment is with it?
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Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 15 Nov 20 at 12:23pm
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Ah!, well there was a bottle of red involved!
I will keep the owner informed. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Nov 20 at 6:25pm
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Woodbotherers ffs. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 16 Nov 20 at 6:34pm
Wood is just carbon in infancy..... ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 12:13pm
| I wonder what evil hot glue Fairey used, must be at least carcinogenic, toxic& environmental hazard. |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 12:43pm
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I'd have guessed Cascamite and a quick Google seems to confirm that. Another source says it was actually Borden's One Shot but chemically that's the same stuff, a urea-formaldehyde resin glue derived from milk. So probably not too toxic, carcinogenic or environmentally hazardous. My dad and I used it on our OKs back in the day, particularly for our regular 'wooden mast tuning' programmes, one week we'd plane some wood off the mast, a week later we'd glue some back on  ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Sussex Lad
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 12:43pm
| Better than Viagra to some. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 7:05pm
| Aerolite or Aerodux adhesives I would have thought. Aerolite was the dominant wooden boat adhesive in the 50s and 60s. Aerodux is superior but more expensive and coloured. |
Posted By: PeterV
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 7:24pm
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Definitely not Cascamite, it’s well known to last only about 25 years. ------------- PeterV Finn K197, Finn GBR564, GK29 Warsash |
Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 8:42pm
| Are any of the products previously mentioned hot cure? |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 9:29pm
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It was a formaldehyde glue, Phenol, I believe, though memory is weak. Whatever cascophen isn't, which may sound odd. I'll see if sleeping on it helps. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 9:41pm
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Continued - it was a resorcinol formaldehyde glue. The closest available to cold cure today is cascophen, but the hot cure glue was a little different. I used to know the name. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 9:42pm
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Now that's sounding more COSHH challenging.
I know Phenolic resin from the 80's was pretty evil stuff, commonly used on London underground mouldings and other flame retardant applications. |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 9:44pm
| If it cant kill you its no good..... |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 17 Nov 20 at 10:10pm
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TBH, I'd forgotten about Aerolite 306, but that was what we use on the boats (we did use cascomite for other projects at home). But there are several references on the web to Fairey's using Cascomite or Borden 'One Shot' and I didn't find any referring to them using Aerolite... ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 18 Nov 20 at 8:32am
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I think decks were stuck on with cascamite. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Dougaldog
Date Posted: 18 Nov 20 at 3:07pm
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The glue used in the hull lay up was an evil compound that stained your hands yellow.....(gloves? What were they?) D ------------- Dougal H |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 18 Nov 20 at 5:45pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6hgRQuvg60
Roller-application of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borden_%28company%29" rel="nofollow - Borden One-Shot waterproof glue preceded each veneer except the first. courtesy wikipedia ------------- Robert |
Posted By: ColPrice2002
Date Posted: 18 Nov 20 at 8:44pm
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Iirc, some of the early Firefly decks were riveted on - aluminium sheeting instead of ply!
Colin |