Fast singlehander for light people
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Topic: Fast singlehander for light people
Posted By: epicfail
Subject: Fast singlehander for light people
Date Posted: 10 Aug 20 at 8:51pm
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I'm a bloke of 9.5 stone and 5.9 height; as a result I sail a Europe, it's great. If I was to sail something else in addition to the Europe it would be good go a bit quicker. Is there a relatively light weight boat, maybe with racks or a trapeze that is suitable? Something that would work well on a relatively small lake? Not looking for anything new or expensive etc. I like the look of the Blaze but a 10m sail looks a bit beyond me. |
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Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 10 Aug 20 at 9:42pm
Could always try the Blaze with a smaller Fire sail ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 8:25am
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Lowrider Moth. The lowriders are very busy again now, sailing everything from vintage to the very, very silly. Fits in well with the Europe heritage, too. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 9:08am
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Farr 3.7 if you fancy a trapeze and always needing something to fix.. Not brilliantly handicap capable but the most fun that can be had and still be described as sailing a dinghy.
I'm light (though not quite 9.5 stone) but don't have your height leverage, and have been pursuing your quest for several years. I've been through the following: Blaze (too big too heavy too nosy in waves) RS100 Great all the time you stay in it, but once you fall out, impossible to get back in. (there's one drifting around the waters of south kent, it's out there somewhere.  )
EPS quirky, fun, needed a soft sail to make manageable, impossible to get spares. Solution, great inland water, fast tacking, super manouvrable, easy, depower on the fly, still love using it on our local lake racing against Lasers. (Not a bad sea boat either but has a propensity to jam small stones in centreboard case.) Tried a Solo, not quite old enough just yet (I'm 72), Still have a Minisprint which I bought for a laugh and wish I hadn't, it's like a Laser only it sails sideways, and now I'm rocking this Farr 3.7 which although not a self build keeps breaking in myriad ways, when it's not being T boned by Lasers, it's a total drag in anything below 10 knots, but once you get on that wire, it's the closest thing to real sailing (windsurfing) I've come across. (Without hiring a crane to launch a Contender) Others to Consider; The Aero 7, there's a guy at our club keeps beating me over the water in one even when I'm wiring. Then whistles while he strolls back up the beach with it on its trailer while I'm struggling to get mine to the winch. There's a blue sailed version of the D0 which is probably the nicest boat I've ever sailed, but ridiculous to try and launch and recover (nothing to grip) and very suspect in waves. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 10:22am
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Blaze with the Fire rig is a very nice boat. The 10.4 is very manageable but you'd probably be quicker with the Fire. It is an absolute joy in waves, I don't know where iGRF get's his 'nosey' impression from, I was out in F6 this weekend in Holyhead Bay, not super bumpy but enough to show up any nose diving tendencies. But, the Blaze likes wide open spaces so, while I do sail/race mine on a small inland lake, it's not it's natural habitat. TBF fast boats and small lakes don't really mix well and your Europe is probably ideal. If you want a change Graeme's Solution solution is probably where I'd be going, I nearly bought one a few years ago for the lake but didn't find one in budget at the time. If I could I'd probably have a Europe for the inland lake and the Blaze for the sea so maybe that, with a Fire sail, would be your best option. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 12:08pm
| An RS300 is another possibility. I really like them, some people find them a bit challenging to sail, especially in big waves, but with plenty of Europe experience and a smallish lake you should be fine. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 1:37pm
Sailing in wave height greater than four feet peak to trough, not a problem in an Easterly, but in a South Westerly that throws up short steep lifters of Blaze asses, then down you go, even if you get your light ass right back on the label. Now the guy I flogged it to is a Big Big Unit, he doesn't have so much trouble, but we're talking light fellas here and nothing a Blaze likes more than to make them Submarine captains. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 3:18pm
(depends how small your small lake is) Farr 3.7 (to get one cheap you'll need to import one) Int Moth (low rider - if you can find one) RS300 Blaze (and get a second smaller Fire sail) https://www.hartleyboatschandlery.co.uk/index.asp?Details=3675&mc=Sails&sc=Racing%20Mainsails&ssc=" rel="nofollow - https://www.hartleyboatschandlery.co.uk/index.asp?Details=3675&mc=Sails&sc=Racing%20Mainsails&ssc= [TUBE]https://youtu.be/_rxP8eenbNA[/TUBE] [TUBE]https://youtu.be/8j54dAUnshY[/TUBE] [TUBE]https://youtu.be/BvEjm9bPtNs[/TUBE] ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: epicfail
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 5:03pm
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Thanks for the replies. We have an RS300 on the lake, the chap that sails it wants a go in my Europe, so maybe... I guess I'm not alone but I like a boat to respond to me moving around, I feel that in a Laser, for example, I don't get an instant reaction. This isn't a problem in the Europe. Lowrider moth on a shifty lake (tree's all around it and three islands with trees on - I mean really shifty) looks like hard work. In reality something with a trapeze would be too - out, in, out, in - over...so possibly not a good idea. We have an Aero 7 pops out occasionally, I'm sure they are lovely but the boom is at a funny angle - looks wrong - this from a Europe sailor.  Also a D-Zero, rather keen on it - perhaps I should ask for ago once we are allowed to share things again...I'll keep pondering,
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 5:45pm
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The RS300 boom is at an even 'funnier angle' to the Aero (I know what you mean though, I quite like it...). Gusty lake? Stick with the Europe, or go to Aero/D-Zero/Solution any of the others will be an absolute nightmare, the Blaze probably the least so but it's a long way from in the boat to hiking hard, the 300 is worse and anything with a trapeze a non-starter. The point is that if you can't use the sitting out power you'll never sail it to it's handicap. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 11 Aug 20 at 6:24pm
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About a zillion years ago we had a late teenager sailing a 300 at Frensham, which is home to gusty and shifty. He perfected a technique of just standing up rather than trying to slide inboard when the lulls and headers came along. ------------- Nick D-Zero 316 |