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Topic: Whatever happened to...
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Whatever happened to...
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 8:21pm
Beer mats on butts?

Time was every brand was lined up on the butts of dinghy botherers in the bar at Grafham water, we all thought they were very strange.

Don't see them much now, why is that I wonder, the Mrs refuse to sew them on for you these days is it?

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 8:22pm
Kids these days don't patch worn out clothes, they buy new...


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 8:47pm
Sorry Griff, don't get it ? Beer mats are card ?

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 8:51pm
Beer towels.

Not sure why...

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 8:53pm
Not that sort of beer mat. These were larger things, akin to tea towels. The idea was to make the unsophisticated waterproofs of those days less prone to ripping and less skiddy on the boat. Think they're called bar towels these days.
https://www.pub-paraphernalia.com/barware/bar-towels/bar-towels.html


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 9:05pm
Shorts are really cheap today, probably why you no longer see it.

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Robert


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 9:28pm


Every bar had them, you used it to wipe the bottom of your pint before taking it to the table they were everywhere no doubt dodgy dinghyists nicked them, I'm not even sure what they sewed them to, but it was some sort of 'badge of honour' shorts maybe, then the shorts over the wetsuit, (and they call kiters out for doing that these days). This particular memory dates back to '78. So I wonder what happened, they started jailing dinghyists ? Or they just stopped replacing them in sailing clubs.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 9:45pm
Probably hygiene regulations, only see metal and plastic drip trays now.

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Robert


Posted By: zeon
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 8:18am
Pubs still use them , they just don’t put them on the bar anymore. 

I haven’t seen them on sailing suits since the early 90s . There is just so much choice in sailing clothing these days, which wasn’t the case in the 50s/60s and 70s, there is just no need to do it .


Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 9:12am
Anybody remember the Alpha sails shiny stretchy all in one suits some wore back in the 80's?
Gary Langdown and Geoff used to have them when they sailed 505.


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 9:45am
Can't remember before wet suits and dry suits, they were mad money.

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Robert


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 12:46pm
... all of the Shakespearoes 

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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 12:52pm
Musto heavy jacket (had to take to the waters edge and walk on it for a while)
Number 1 stretch suits (matched to your spinnaker)
Flotherchoc buoyancy aids (minimalist once you had burst all the floats)
Holt buoyancy aid (in purple - suits you sir)
Dunlop Magisters
Musto boots
Smiths sailing stopwatches (in rubber around the neck case)
Javlin two piece wetsuit 
Javlin fleece jackets that pilled
Alpha Mackenzie trapeze harnesses
An unfortunate purple tank top ...



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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 12:54pm
Then course, where have they all gone.. yellow wellies?


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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 1:03pm
Above my desk as I type I look at a rather unfortunate 40 year old photo of me sailing a Laser in said yellow wellies, Number One stretch suit and protecting my Holt buoyancy aid and Javlin wetsuit underneath.  

I also had more hair then, and an unfortunate taste in glasses.


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 1:49pm
How did yellow wellies stay on ? Never seen a pair.

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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 4:14pm
They appear to remain attached 



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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 9:20pm
Our ‘winkies’ (a boiler suit made from thick gagoole material) weren’t  water proof so a few stitches in the butt area didn’t affect performance. We invented layering, double trackie bottoms under the winky.  Who needed wet suit boots, we had pumps, certainly lasted longer than a few premium brands I could mention. Buoyancy aid, manually inflating life jacket. 

But the coolest thing on a the planet, GP14 that had a golf club shaft, not a piece of wood, as a tiller extension.

In hindsight it is perplexing that the sport grew in these days of black and white TV 


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 9:42pm
Why does draught beer taste better ?

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Robert


Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 10:00pm
Because it is a relatively natural product not a chemical full of preservatives. Needs a good cellar man and a thirsty crew to keep it fresh

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 10:09pm
Just had 'Doom bar' on draught for first time, you wouldn't think it was same drink compared with bottles and cans.

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Robert


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 07 Feb 20 at 11:24pm
My fave draught beer is Timothy Taylors Landlord, in cans, Pedigree or Ruddles County*. The problem with most cans is they are 'draught flow'. 'Bottle conditioned' beers are inevitable different from draught or canned as the final fermentation is in the bottle. I may be a philistine but I actually prefer non-draughtflow cans to bottle conditioned beer. Good, well kept, draught is unbeatable though.

* Nowt wrong with Doom Bar mind you


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Posted By: Mark Aged 42
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 7:19am
@Sam, ever tried Hopbacks Summer Lightning? 1st pint of the evening, delicious, 2nd pint also terrific. 3rd pint is still a pleasure. 4th - oblivion.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 11:09am
Ooh that sounds nice, but, I tend to prefer weaker beers TBH, if anybody made a 3% bitter that tasted good I'd drink it.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 3:17pm
Three Tuns on draught, not to strong.

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Robert


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 3:48pm
Not going in pubs at the moment, not that I did much anyway, so needs to be cans or bottles...



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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 4:26pm
Sharps Atlantic pale ale.

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Robert


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 4:35pm
Curious Brew.. Lager and IPA with a hint of champagne. Nothing tastes quite like it, so quite literally the champagne of lagers.


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 19 Aug 20 at 7:30pm
Have you tried macky and vimto? Or even heard of it?

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Robert


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 9:26am
Macky & Vimto? Why would I? last I looked I still had a willy.

I assume by Macky you're referring to Mackeson, can't recall the last time I drank that and I certainly wouldn't have poluted it with Vimto.

Do you like Dubonnet and lemonade as well?

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 10:18am
I hadn't heard of it either, just came up in a discussion about non draught beers, Vimto far superior to Mackeson any day, the Vimto is polluted, favourite pop anyone?

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Robert


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 12:14pm
Vimto or Mackeson? Neither for me, thanks! Reminds me of someone who used to drink Guinness and orange juice, except there at least the component parts are drinkable, even if the mix is vile.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 6:25pm
Nope, can't think of anything worse than Guinness and orange.

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Robert


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 7:01pm
Is this a competition?
How about red wine and coca-cola?


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 7:29pm
Sounds good, what about tea stirred with a coffee spoon?

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Robert


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 8:38pm
Guinness and blackcurrant was a thing when I were a lad.... Bizarre.... If you don't like Guinness then drink summit else FFS....

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 8:57pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Nope, can't think of anything worse than Guinness and orange.


I couldn't till vimto and mackeson!

Though I used to drink pints of purple nasty, which was snakebite with pernod and black in it.

For those with sheltered childhoods, snakebite is half lager, half cider. Drink it quick before weird stuff settles.

The 80s is blurred.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Aug 20 at 9:29pm
Never tried it, snakebite, have seen signs in some pubs stating its banned.

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Robert


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 21 Aug 20 at 7:22am
Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by 423zero

Nope, can't think of anything worse than Guinness and orange.


I couldn't till vimto and mackeson!

Though I used to drink pints of purple nasty, which was snakebite with pernod and black in it.

For those with sheltered childhoods, snakebite is half lager, half cider. Drink it quick before weird stuff settles.

The 80s is blurred.

Must have been a Lark sailor ... wonder what happened to Billy the funnel?


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Aug 20 at 10:22am
I don't see Mackeson around any more, it was brewed in Hythe, they knocked the building down years ago, nice flats and car park now like just about everything else of interest down here.

Vimto's about isn't it a kids cola drink from before cola was a thing even? Like that 'Bing' which came from the Silver Spring factory, another flattened bit of land awaiting development. Not far from the old Dormobile works, another story of opportunity lost.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 21 Aug 20 at 10:39am
Just googled vimto, still made, Leicestershire and Yorkshire, 1908 started out as medicine called vim tonic.

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